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1 posted on 08/15/2015 7:48:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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He loves us unconditionally when we surrender unconditionally.

In the story of the Prodigal Son, the Father restore the son’s condition with no restrictions, but only after the son returned. The Father did not go and drag the son back, he did not reserve him his place until he returned. He did sit a single condition: the son must come and repent.

Once that condition was met, then there were no other conditions.


2 posted on 08/15/2015 7:58:00 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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John 3:16 says God loved the world so much that He gave His only begotten Son. Not just individuals who were saved. The world.

That said, John 3:16b requires receipt of the Gospel for salvation.

God IS love (1 John 4:8). It is not for us as men to make judgments on the ability, or inability, of God to love any member of His creation unconditionally.

That said, receive the Gospel and be saved.


4 posted on 08/15/2015 8:04:07 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("No social transformation without representation." - Justice Antonin Scalia)
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John 6:29

John 6:29New International Version (NIV)

29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

John 14:6

John 14:6New International Version (NIV)

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.


5 posted on 08/15/2015 8:06:30 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (The Sun Never Sets on Liberal Idiocy)
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The author is confusing unconditional LOVE with unconditional eternal salvation.

God STILL loves Adolf Hitler, Jeffrey Dahmer, Charles Manson - the SAME as He loves you, me, Billy Graham, or any other human being HE created.

Yet, He gave US the choice of loving Him back or not.

HIS love IS unconditional; ours is not.


6 posted on 08/15/2015 8:56:07 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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This point matters. If we get it wrong, we get the Gospel wrong. If we fail to acknowledge the gravity of sin and the necessity of Christ’s payment for it, then we remove the essential context in which his news proves good.

This above is the money quote from the post.

There are no good deeds we can do to atone for our sins.

It is Christ Who died for our sins.

It is Christ Who paid for ALL of our sins.

It is Christ Who was offered as a one time sacrifice for ALL of our sins.

It is Christ and Christ alone who makes us righteous.

As the old hymn goes....

what can wash away my sins? nothing but the blood of Jesus

what can make me whole again? nothing but the blood of Jesus.

7 posted on 08/15/2015 9:00:58 AM PDT by ealgeone
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But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Romans 5:8 (emphasis mine)

8 posted on 08/15/2015 9:10:39 AM PDT by tbpiper
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This guy has never heard of Reformed/Calvinistic theology because it deals with all of those questions. Whether you agree or disagree with the doctrines of Grace, they have been a major school of Christian theology from the beginning and just pointing out that there is an alternative perspective is not to much to ask. It is not my point to hijack the thread and turn it into a “predestination vs. free will” thread, we’ve had way to many of those already. I’m just pointing out the a author is either ignorant of a major branch of Christian theology or for some reason he just chose to ignore this perspective on “unconditional love”.


9 posted on 08/15/2015 9:13:21 AM PDT by circlecity
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John said it all:

God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them. 17 This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment: In this world we are like Jesus. 18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

19 We love because he first loved us. 20 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. 21 And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister.


14 posted on 08/15/2015 10:00:19 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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Matthew 5:43-48 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Yes, God loves us unconditionally.

However, that does not mean He's obligated to save everyone.

In His love, He provided a means by which ANYONE could come to Him and be saved, a way easy and simple enough for a child to do it.

But His not forcing salvation on people against their will does not mean He doesn't love them.

John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

God's love is unconditional also, because He is no respecter of persons.

If His love was conditional, there would be some criteria on which to base who He loves and who HE doesn't.

16 posted on 08/15/2015 10:13:45 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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He didn’t “love” the money changers defiling the Temple.


18 posted on 08/15/2015 11:21:24 AM PDT by montag813 (Bring Back Tar and Feathers)
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