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To: SeekAndFind

The author is confusing unconditional LOVE with unconditional eternal salvation.

God STILL loves Adolf Hitler, Jeffrey Dahmer, Charles Manson - the SAME as He loves you, me, Billy Graham, or any other human being HE created.

Yet, He gave US the choice of loving Him back or not.

HIS love IS unconditional; ours is not.


6 posted on 08/15/2015 8:56:07 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: joethedrummer

Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

You are confuse undeserving with unconditional. Hitler and Dahmer are already in Hell. Thank God.

“When the righteous prosper, the city rejoices;
when the wicked perish, there are shouts of joy.”


11 posted on 08/15/2015 9:33:06 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (I was mad when they changed Republican states to Red, but I now I see they were right.)
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To: joethedrummer
God STILL loves Adolf Hitler, Jeffrey Dahmer, Charles Manson - the SAME as He loves you, me, Billy Graham, or any other human being HE created.

But not Esau (Malachi 1:3 and Romans 9:10-13). I'm not trying to put you on the spot. I have found this to be a difficult topic to understand. How can God be love (1 John 4:8) and yet hate as His Word says? I haven't yet figured that out. I assume limitations in my abilities to understand - I have seen explanations but none which I found fully satisfying. I have no problem with saying that I don't know but I wouldn't say that God loves everyone.

13 posted on 08/15/2015 9:53:04 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: joethedrummer

No, God does not love them-or they’d have been saved. God did’t chose not to love them, rather they chose to reject their only hope for salvation. we love God because he loved us first, but sometimes his Grace runs out when we harden our hearts and then die. God would do anything to reach for them if they’d have just asked, bulgur they chose not to, sadly..


17 posted on 08/15/2015 10:55:15 AM PDT by JSDude1
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