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What to do if you missed the Rapture
Youtube ^ | July 15, 2015 | Ed Hinson

Posted on 07/26/2015 8:55:19 AM PDT by MHGinTN

Here is yet more information, for those who miss the Rapture and are here after the event. This is for people, not any particular congregation of people. Please, think about it ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: opinions; rapture; tribulation
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To: Elsie
Is the camera on your fone REALLY turned off right now??

I am not sure about mine, but on others, if it's not off, then the guy on the receiving end, has probably seen enough single finger salutes to last a lifetime. 😱😆

361 posted on 07/27/2015 4:25:24 PM PDT by Mark17 (When I see the mountain, covered with snow, fallen from Heaven above. Makes me feel so small)
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To: avenir

Peter was acting hypocritically and needed confrontation because he was not acting in line with the truth of the gospel. (See: Galatians)


I did see Galatians, it is easy enough not to see a thing if it is not looked directly at but I think it is so plain that Pauls reasoning is to make Peter out to be lesser in order to make himself more.


362 posted on 07/27/2015 4:26:11 PM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
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To: Elsie

The “nearest tower” can be over 100 miles in some cases.

I got stuck in a mountain canyon back in 1987, and my bag phone could only find a cell that was 110 miles away, but the call still went through, from Pittsburg, California to Chico California where the cell was, and then to Pleasanton California where my office was.


363 posted on 07/27/2015 4:26:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: avenir
Peter was acting hypocritically and needed confrontation because he was not acting in line with the truth of the gospel. (See: Galatians)

I wonder if Paul was critical of Peter for the duration, or just for that one issue?

364 posted on 07/27/2015 4:34:55 PM PDT by Mark17 (When I see the mountain, covered with snow, fallen from Heaven above. Makes me feel so small)
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To: Iscool

Having the bride, the church, in heaven while the tribulation is going on (getting married you say), you must have read into Revelation text somewhere, where?

The only mention of the marriage of the Lamb I find in Revelation, I find at the end of the tribulation (Rev. 19:1-9)...and only then is she said to have gotten herself ready. Obviously, it has taken the tribulation for her to have gotten herself ready.

The pretrib spin on the marriage of the Lamb, is but another in a long list of inferences they believe “proves” a pretrib rapture. But inferences is not what you need - inferences = passages you believe that “infers” a pretrib rapture - what you need is an actual statement somewhere clearly setting forth your doctrine, setting forth an additional parousia separate from the one Jesus taught in Matt. 24:29-31.

Something by Paul like this: “Jesus taught only one parousia to his disciples on the mount of Olives, behold, I bring a tremendous new revelation, there are two parousias! one before the tribulation, another one after it. To differentiate the two, we will call the first one the “rapture.” Or something to this effect.

If you can produce such a statement, and you DO need one for such a dramatic thing as you propose, an additional parousia from the one Jesus set forth in his olivet discourse, then you will have a case. Until you can come up with such a statement, then all you have are a bunch of inferences. Which, in every instance all you are doing is reading your presupposed additional parousia into the word of God.


365 posted on 07/27/2015 4:44:07 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: ravenwolf
II Peter 3:15,16

Sounds like Peter would not agree with you.

366 posted on 07/27/2015 4:52:59 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: editor-surveyor
Pittsburg, California

I had couple of former co workers who lived in Pittsburg. Up until I got to the area, I thought the one in Pennsylvania was the only one.

367 posted on 07/27/2015 4:55:52 PM PDT by Mark17 (When I see the mountain, covered with snow, fallen from Heaven above. Makes me feel so small)
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To: Elsie
Sometimes I write out the verses, the rest of the time I just let them do their own reading.

Who knows, maybe they will get inspired to read the whole thing. :)

368 posted on 07/27/2015 4:56:37 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Sounds like Peter would not agree with you.


That is very possible.

Peter was taught very thoroughly that if some one takes his coat to give then his cloak also, if some one smites him on one cheek to turn the other cheek, and forgive not 7 times but 70 times that.

So it is only natural for him to have only good words for Paul even though Pauls words for him were anything but good.

Yes, Peter was probably aware of his short comings but he took what Jesus taught serious.

You are most likely right.


369 posted on 07/27/2015 5:08:53 PM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
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To: ravenwolf
Actually it means that Peter knew he was in the wrong.

Peter had nothing to forgive, it was his place to ask for forgiveness.

370 posted on 07/27/2015 5:23:55 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Actually it means that Peter knew he was in the wrong.
Peter had nothing to forgive, it was his place to ask for forgiveness.


I would sure hate to be accused of doing something wrong if my jurors would not require witnesses.

But of course Peter was not officially accused he was just slandered by Paul, it is possible the Galatians are the only ones who even heard of it.

While I have no way of knowing if Peter actually did wrong or if Paul just assumed he did or if the incident even occurred.

It is plain to me from reading the teachings of Jesus that Paul was in the wrong.


371 posted on 07/27/2015 5:48:49 PM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
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To: verga

bkmk


372 posted on 07/27/2015 5:51:03 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: sasportas
The only mention of the marriage of the Lamb I find in Revelation, I find at the end of the tribulation (Rev. 19:1-9)...and only then is she said to have gotten herself ready.

The battle of Armageddon ends the Tribulation...That takes place after the Wedding...


373 posted on 07/27/2015 5:55:52 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ravenwolf
It is plain to me from reading the teachings of Jesus that Paul was in the wrong.

WoW...Never heard that one before...

374 posted on 07/27/2015 5:58:04 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ravenwolf
I really think you should read them again.

15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

II Peter 3 15,16

Peter names Paul as one who is consistent in his writing and the writings are from wisdom give to Paul by God.

Since you brand Paul a liar then it follows that Peter was a liar as well.

375 posted on 07/27/2015 5:59:52 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: G Larry

As is written...”... Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord ‘in the air’, and so we shall always be with the Lord......1 Thess. 4:17


376 posted on 07/27/2015 6:01:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: Elsie
These are the only places that I can find that antichrist is mentioned.

True, but if it says "you have heard that the antichrist is coming," then it must meant he must be coming, even though there were and are many antichrists, like as there will be The day of the Lord, though there have been many day of the Lord precursors already.

In any case, call the man of lawlessness what you want, but he certainly is anti-Christ.

377 posted on 07/27/2015 6:06:29 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: editor-surveyor

No, but your Roodness is showing. I have read Michael Norten’s book ‘Unlocking The Feasts’. You might even benefit from reading it.


378 posted on 07/27/2015 6:18:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Yosemitest

If you can find it, rewad the Jerome vulgate, before the Cathyoloic Church changes ao many ‘little things’. You have discovered on your own one of the blatant changes made, possibly to condemn the reformers, since the Douay Rheims changed a few words to reflect on the danger of ‘leaving mother church’. But you don’t have to trust me, find the earliest copies of Jerome’s text translations from the Greek to the Latin.


379 posted on 07/27/2015 6:23:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Yosemitest

you posted the text in Latin and didn’t even see ‘rapiemur’? Amazing that


380 posted on 07/27/2015 6:26:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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