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To: HarleyD

Welcome a man whose faith is weak, but not with the idea of arguing over his scruples. One man believes that he may eat anything, another man, without this strong conviction, is a vegetarian. The meat-eater should not despise the vegetarian, nor should the vegetarian condemn the meat-eater—they should reflect that God has accepted them both.

After all, who are you to criticise the servant of somebody else, especially when that somebody else is God? It is to his own master that he gives, or fails to give, satisfactory service. And don’t doubt that satisfaction, for God is well able to transform men into servants who are satisfactory.

Again, one man thinks some days of more importance than others. Another man considers them all alike. Let every one be definite in his own convictions. If a man specially observes one particular day, he does so “to God”. The man who eats, eats “to God”, for he thanks God for the food. The man who fasts also does it “to God”, for he thanks God for the benefits of fasting. The truth is that we neither live nor die as self-contained units. At every turn life links us to God, and when we die we come face to face with him. In life or death we are in the hands of God. Christ lived and died that he might be the Lord in both life and death.

Why, then, criticise your brother’s actions, why try to make him look small? We shall all be judged one day, not by each other’s standards or even our own, but by the standard of Christ. It is written: ‘As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God’. It is to God alone that we have to answer for our actions.

Let us therefore stop turning critical eyes on one another. If we must be critical, let us be critical of our own conduct and see that we do nothing to make a brother stumble or fall.

I am convinced, and I say this as in the presence of Christ himself, that nothing is intrinsically unholy. But none the less it is unholy to the man who thinks it is. If your habit of unrestricted diet seriously upsets your brother, you are no longer living in love towards him. And surely you wouldn’t let food mean ruin to a man for whom Christ died. You mustn’t let something that is all right for you look like an evil practice to somebody else.

After all, the kingdom of Heaven is not a matter of whether you get what you like to eat and drink, but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. If you put these things first in serving Christ you will please God and are not likely to offend men. So let us concentrate on the things which make for harmony, and on the growth of one another’s character. Surely we shouldn’t wish to undo God’s work for the sake of a plate of meat!

I freely admit that all food is, in itself. harmless, but it can be harmful to the man who eats it with a guilty conscience. We should be willing to be both vegetarians and teetotallers if by doing otherwise we should impede a brother’s progress in faith. Your personal convictions are a matter of faith between yourself and God, and you are happy if you have no qualms about what you allow yourself to eat. Yet if a man eats meat with an uneasy conscience about it, you may be sure he is wrong to do so. For his action does not spring from his faith, and when we act apart from our faith we sin.

We who have strong faith ought to shoulder the burden of the doubts and qualms of others and not just to go our own sweet way. Our actions should mean the good of others—should help them to build up their characters. For even Christ did not choose his own pleasure, but as it is written: “The reproaches of those who reproached you fell on me.”


It is one thing to delve deeper into scripture. But I’ve had people tell me I’m going to hell for not accepting Calvin’s 5 points. I don’t think God agrees with that assessment.

I don’t think systematic theology gets much support from scripture. It seems more like human philosophy pretending to be a desire for God.

Like most Baptists, I reject infant baptism. I suspect others on this thread support it. But regardless of the age at which it is done, water baptism gives spiritual life to no one. I would be glad to explain to someone why I reject infant baptism, but I need to be very careful in how I go about it. God is a lot bigger than I am, and I have no business trying to shackle Him.


63 posted on 07/25/2015 2:30:56 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Mr Rogers; All

When you quote scripture please include chapter and verse.


67 posted on 07/25/2015 4:40:19 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Mr Rogers
After all, who are you to criticise the servant of somebody else, especially when that somebody else is God?

I am one of the men inspecting the elephant; telling the OTHERS that they must be seeing it wrong.

My tolerance level is WAY low for those who don't see things MY way!


Romans 7:21-24
21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me.

O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

71 posted on 07/26/2015 3:47:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mr Rogers

There is a difference between a man “weak in his faith” and a man who should “leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity”.


72 posted on 07/26/2015 4:18:11 AM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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