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To: piusv
All this, because the leaders of the Holy Catholic Church have and continue to fail to teach the truth with clarity and charity.

You're not serious, are you?

This is trash logic. An entire, huge, worldwide denomination is responsible because the culture overcame a few leaders in the west?

It's just sheer ignorance, sensationalism, and THIS PROTESTANT PASTOR knows a ridiculous argument when he sees one.

It's the kind of garbage that divides and conquers, gets people at one another's throats, rather than providing a serious discussion of how to fix what's wrong.

24 posted on 06/28/2015 8:16:58 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: xzins

xzins:

Well said the logic of the arguments in some of these posts would not allow someone to pass an elementary philosophy exam. So Lets see, the Roe v Wade Decision, which is “far worse” should be blamed on the Protestants. It was a 7-2 decision, with 8 of Justices being PRotestant [all were either Presbyterian, Methodist of Episcopalian] and 1 Catholic [Brennan]. Brennan, the Catholic sided with 6 Protestants to form the 7 majority. But if just half of the Protestants who voted in the majority 7-2 opinion had sided with Rehnquist [Lutheran] and B. White [Episcopalian], the 2 minority opinions in the 7-2 decision, Roe v. Wade would have been the other way around.

Of the course, I no more blame Roe V. Wade on the various Protestant communities than the recent same sex marriage ruling should be blamed on the Catholic Church. 4 out of 6 Catholics voted against it, given the times we live in, not bad, but the other 2 who voted for it should not be blamed on the Church collectively, it is the wrong headiness of 2 individuals.

At this point, I hope the Catholic Bishops no longer allow the Local parish Priest to issue the “license of marriage” at the Church. Clearly state what is going in the Catholic Liturgy is the “Catholic Sacrament of Holy Matrimony”, that is what is going on here. The couple [Man/Woman] could then go down to the their local City Court and have the “state license of marriage issued and signed” in the presence of the local Judge or his or her representative.

Totally separate the Catholic Liturgical Rite from the Secular side all together. How Protestant groups will handle this, I don’t know, I don’t want to speak for any of them.

That is my take on it.


27 posted on 06/28/2015 10:41:21 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: xzins

It’s the kind of garbage that divides and conquers, gets people at one another’s throats, rather than providing a serious discussion of how to fix what’s wrong.

I guess it escaped your notice that the author was a Catholic, holding the Catholic Church leaders to blame for their dilatory efforts, in the face of an obvious crisis coming...and it was directed towards Catholics...

Had a Protestant written the same type of article condemning Catholics (but of course that would never happen here on FR, would it) you might have a salient point, but, well, you’re simply on the wrong track here...


33 posted on 06/28/2015 1:32:19 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: xzins; IrishBrigade; BlatherNaut; ebb tide
It's just sheer ignorance

There's ignorance being displayed here and it's not by the OP, myself nor most of the other Catholics that have posted here.

35 posted on 06/28/2015 2:40:34 PM PDT by piusv
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