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To: vladimir998
Well, your understanding is wrong. Proving that the Catholic faith is true, does not make Protestants “heathens worse than animists.”

On numerous posts you have declared persons like myself a non-Catholic "Protestant" an apostate and going to hell...right along with the “heathens...and animists.”

Well, which is it...?

Does Christ save me or the Catholic Church ?

94 posted on 06/28/2015 4:21:19 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Popman
Does Christ save me or the Catholic Church ?

And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
John, Catholic chapter seventeen, Protestant verses eleven to twenty six,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

97 posted on 06/28/2015 5:13:13 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Popman

“On numerous posts you have declared persons like myself a non-Catholic “Protestant” an apostate and going to hell...right along with the “heathens...and animists.””

That’s an outright falsehood. First generation Protestants can clearly be called apostates in a colloquial sense. But I have never, EVER, liked Protestants to “heathens...and animists”. Go ahead and search for any such reference. You’ll fail to find any.

“Well, which is it...?”

Which is what?

“Does Christ save me or the Catholic Church ?”

Christ is the Savior and that’s why He established the Catholic Church.


106 posted on 06/28/2015 8:02:59 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Popman

Here is what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says about Protestants:

838 “The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter.”322 Those “who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church.”323 With the Orthodox Churches, this communion is so profound “that it lacks little to attain the fullness that would permit a common celebration of the Lord’s Eucharist.”324

Thus, I know Protestants are Christians and would never liken them to animists. You should apologize for your falsehood.


108 posted on 06/28/2015 8:25:29 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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