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To: RnMomof7

Matthew 28

The Commissioning of the Disciples.* 16f The eleven* disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had ordered them. 17* When they saw him, they worshiped, but they doubted. 18* g

Then Jesus approached and said to them, “All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19h

Go, therefore,* and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, 20i teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.*

And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.”

The Catholic Church has followed the instructions of Jesus to Baptize and Teach. The Catholic Church by work of her Bishops, Priests, Deacons and Members has done that, yet it is still a work in progress. In doing so, it became a larger organization (Body of Christ) and there was a need to establish order and leadership changes throughout the centuries. It is natural to have a leader and Christ established Peter as that leader and his successors continued to lead Catholics and grow the Body of Christ.

There have been many heresies and other religions that formed and left the Catholic Church. Including the Protestants that protested The teachings of Jesus. They insist on sola scripture with little leadership. They ignore some of the teachings of Jesus in the Bible and sacred traditions. They ignore the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

Yet they continue to dispute the leadership of the Catholic Church.

If they were the true church/ religion of Jesus, why wouldn’t they stress the positive Good News of Jesus instead of being so argumentative and negative?

Is there one true Church or did Jesus establish 30,000 different religions? Can everyone start their own church and believe their own personal opinion?

Remember that Jesus is always with us (Catholic Church).

All are welcome at the Catholic Church. Saints and sinners as we learn to love Jesus and our neighbors on our path toward salvation in Heaven.


66 posted on 06/19/2015 2:24:23 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM
" Can everyone start their own church and believe their own personal opinion?"

Matthew 18:20 "For where two or more are gathered in My name, I am there in the midst of them". I'll take that as a YES as long as they go by the teachings in the Bible.

Remember that Jesus is always with us (Catholic Church).

I think you added that (Catholic Church) part because it ain't in my Bible.

68 posted on 06/19/2015 2:37:41 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: ADSUM

How many times must Jesus be sacrificed upon the catholic altar of Nicolaitanism for someone to have Jesus as God, the Holy Spirit, with them unto the end of the Age? Why is the catholic Jesus not sufficient sacrifice for Justification ONCE FOR ALL FOREVER? Why does Catholicism blaspheme Jesus by insisting their adherents drink His Blood, instead of That most precious Blood being spread upon the Mercy Seat to take away the law of sin and death so God’s Holy Spirit can indwell the Justified ON EARTH?


81 posted on 06/19/2015 4:02:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: ADSUM

>>>>>>>>>Is there one true Church or did Jesus establish 30,000 different religions? Can everyone start their own church and believe their own personal opinion?<<<<<<<<<

See ADSUM Rome has to lie to justify itself..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/756707/posts


85 posted on 06/19/2015 4:18:52 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: ADSUM
Is there one true Church or did Jesus establish 30,000 different religions?

AHhhh...

I love the smell of a logic fallacy in the morning!!


#10

Logical fallacies hide the truth, so pointing them out is very useful.
 
1. Ad Hominem - Attacking the individual instead of the argument.
Example: You are so stupid your argument couldn't possibly be true.
Example: I figured that you couldn't possibly get it right, so I ignored your comment.
 
2. Appeal to Force - Telling the hearer that something bad will happen to him if he does not accept the argument.
Example: If you don't want to get beaten up, you will agree with what I say.
Example: Convert or die.
 
3. Appeal to Pity - Urging the hearer to accept the argument based upon an appeal to emotions, sympathy, etc.
Example: You owe me big time because I really stuck my neck out for you.
Example: Oh come on, I've been sick. That's why I missed the deadline.
 
4. Appeal to the Popular - Urging the hearer to accept a position because a majority of people hold to it.
Example: The majority of people like soda. Therefore, soda is good.
Example: Everyone else is doing it. Why shouldn't you?
 
5. Appeal to Tradition - Trying to get someone to accept something because it has been done or believed for a long time.
Example: This is the way we've always done it. Therefore, it is the right way.
Example: The Catholic church's tradition demonstrates that this doctrine is true.
 
6. Begging the Question - Assuming the thing to be true that you are trying to prove. It is circular.
Example: God exists because the Bible says so. The Bible is inspired. Therefore, we know that God exists.
Example: I am a good worker because Frank says so. How can we trust Frank? Simple: I will vouch for him.
 
7. Cause and Effect - Assuming that the effect is related to a cause because the events occur together.
Example: When the rooster crows, the sun rises. Therefore, the rooster causes the sun to rise.
Example: When the fuel light goes on in my car, I soon run out of gas. Therefore, the fuel light causes my car to run out of gas.
 
8. Circular Argument - See Begging the Question
Fallacy of Division - Assuming that what is true of the whole is true for the parts.
Example: That car is blue. Therefore, its engine is blue.
Example: Your family is weird. That means that you are weird too.
 
9. Fallacy of Equivocation - Using the same term in an argument in different places but the word has different meanings.
Example: A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Therefore, a bird is worth more than President Bush.
Example: Evolution states that one species can change into another. We see that cars have evolved into different styles. Therefore, since evolution is a fact in cars, it is true in species.
 
10. False Dilemma - Giving two choices when in actuality there could be more choices possible.
Example: You either did knock the glass over or you did not. Which is it? (Someone else could have knocked the glass over)
Example: Do you still beat your wife?
 
11. Genetic Fallacy - Attempting to endorse or disqualify a claim because of the origin or irrelevant history of the claim.
Example: The Nazi regime developed the Volkswagen Beetle. Therefore, you should not buy a VW Beetle because of who started it.
Example: Frank just got out of jail last year; since it was his idea to start the hardware store, I can't trust him.
 
12. Guilt by Association - Rejecting an argument or claim because the person proposing it likes someone whom is disliked by another.
Example: Hitler liked dogs. Therefore dogs are bad.
Example: Your friend is a thief. Therefore, I cannot trust you.
 
13. Non Sequitur - Comments or information that do not logically follow from a premise or the conclusion.
Example: We know why it rained today: because I washed my car.
Example: I don't care what you say. We don't need any more bookshelves. As long as the carpet is clean, we are fine.
 
14. Poisoning the Well - Presenting negative information about a person before he/she speaks so as to discredit the person's argument.
Example: Frank is pompous, arrogant, and thinks he knows everything. So, let's hear what Frank has to say about the subject.
Example: Don't listen to him because he is a loser.
 
15. Red Herring - Introducing a topic not related to the subject at hand.
Example: I know your car isn't working right. But, if you had gone to the store one day earlier, you'd not be having problems.
Example: I know I forgot to deposit the check into the bank yesterday. But, nothing I do pleases you.
 
16. Special Pleading (double standard) - Applying a standard to another that is different from a standard applied to oneself.
Example: You can't possibly understand menopause because you are a man.
Example: Those rules don't apply to me since I am older than you.
 
17. Straw Man Argument - Producing an argument about a weaker representation of the truth and attacking it.
Example: The government doesn't take care of the poor because it doesn't have a tax specifically to support the poor.
Example: We know that evolution is false because we did not evolve from monkeys.
 
18. Category Mistake - Attributing a property to something that could not possibly have that property. Attributing facts of one kind are attributed to another kind. Attributing to one category that which can only be properly attributed to another.
Example: Blue sleeps faster than Wednesday.
Example: Saying logic is transcendental is like saying cars would exist if matter didn't.

176 posted on 06/20/2015 3:50:28 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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