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Was The Papacy Established By Christ?
triablogue ^ | June 23, 2006 | Jason Engwer

Posted on 06/19/2015 12:01:57 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: ADSUM

Who has ‘impressed’ you so?


181 posted on 06/20/2015 4:00:14 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
church....remember, upon this rock I will build MY CHURCH....

I guess old dogs just CAN'T be taught new tricks.



182 posted on 06/20/2015 4:02:51 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
From Catholic answers.

From elsewhere...


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183 posted on 06/20/2015 4:04:14 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
Google® did NOT find your 'quoted' words.

Did you just make this up and think no one would check it?


https://www.google.com/search?q=%22take+and+drink+of+this,+this+is+a+cup+of+my+blood+which+will+be+shed+for+the+forgiveness+of+sin%22&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADRA_enUS475&gws_rd=ssl

184 posted on 06/20/2015 4:06:43 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl

>em>Actually</em>, the Orthodox Church set the original standards, which the nascent Catholic Church (until that time, the Patriarchate of Rome) flouted increasingly until 1054 when it decided that all the other Christians in the world should bow to its leadership and tried to excommunicate everyone not under their umbrella.


185 posted on 06/20/2015 4:07:30 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: terycarl
...they don't have to, nor do they, make up anything....

Sure they do; Bob!

Wake up and smell the hummus!

186 posted on 06/20/2015 4:07:43 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: napscoordinator
I am trying to save the ignorant.

I merely try to educate them.

The saving can be done by Someone elsse.

187 posted on 06/20/2015 4:09:05 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
Since Mary and Joseph were the only people present at the nativity, just who narrated this story and to whom was it narrated???

More Catholic teaching?

From SILENCE?

There COULD have been a LOT of folks around. Just because none were listed does NOT mean you can claim that none was there!



Typical Catholic 'logic'.

188 posted on 06/20/2015 4:11:34 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
......very sad, you are missing out on so very much.

Like what?

189 posted on 06/20/2015 4:12:07 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
...but would prefer to be amorous.
190 posted on 06/20/2015 4:13:34 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SaveFerris
I love being unanimous!

Me; too!

Until I wake up the next day and find I've disagreed with myself!

191 posted on 06/20/2015 4:14:53 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SaveFerris; StormPrepper; Normandy; teppe; WilliamRobert
I love being unanimous!

So do Mormons.

EVERY vote that THEY take; high above Salt Lake City; on really important matters is UNANIMOUS!


(Makes me wonder why they NEED a Quorum of Twelve.

Seems like ONE would be enough!)

192 posted on 06/20/2015 4:16:44 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Your comment: “Has Jesus gone on record as correcting anyone’s theology?”

Yes. The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?” 53Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. 54Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. 55For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 John 6


193 posted on 06/20/2015 4:25:00 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Iscool

Peter never said to ‘follow me’...That’s puts Paul then as the first pope...I don’t think the Catholics believe that...


That is right, Paul said follow me, he also told the Corinthians he was their father.

How many fathers are in the Catholic Church even though our lord said call no man father, and if we read the whole discussion we can see that he is referring to the title of father.

The Catholic`s can only follow Christ by following the Pope who is the vicar of Christ which means the representative of Christ.

Where would they have got it except from Paul?

Paul said in 1 Corinthians 11
Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.

ordinances? where have I heard that?

The point is that much of the teaching which is not liked by the protestants although misunderstood comes from Paul.

In acts 15 the ordinances was given to the gentile Churches

19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:

20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Seems like a far cry from what I hear of the Catholic Church and also all of the ordinances Paul gave.

Nun head covering.
1 cor 11:13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?

Paul explained that a Woman`s long hair was her covering
but they seem to get stuck on verse 13.

So although the Catholics do hold Peter as first pope they get many of their teachings from Paul.


194 posted on 06/20/2015 4:45:14 AM PDT by ravenwolf (t)
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To: Iscool

Your comment: “At least these denominations are sticking with what they believe the bible to say...The Catholic religion just invents junk that has no biblical basis and calls it doctrine or dogma...And then calls itself the one, true religion...

Do they? Some are accepting of divorce and remarriage, abortion,birth control, homosexuality and same sex marriage.

The Catholic Church is based on the teachings of Jesus, and the protestant religions were formed by man; Luther, Calvin, etc,

From a protestant site:
all Protestant denominations agree on is that the Roman Catholic Church is not the one true church of God. Protestant denominations are unanimous in rejecting the papacy, the supremacy of Rome, prayer to saints/Mary, worship of saints/Mary, transubstantiation, purgatory, and most other Roman Catholic dogmas. Sola Scriptura has led all Protestant denominations to the same conclusion – the Bible does not teach many of the things Roman Catholics practice/believe. Further, outside of disagreeing with Roman Catholicism, the Protestant denominations agree on far more issues than they disagree on. Most of the Protestant denominations were formed because of a non-essential doctrine, a side issue, on which Christians can agree to disagree. Really???

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Protestant-denominations.html#ixzz3dbLJxwaD

The Catholic teachings are all based on the Bible and the teachings of Jesus, except where protestants and others
misrepresent these teachings.


195 posted on 06/20/2015 5:15:49 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

And NO one stuck a FORK into Jesus at this time?

REALLY?


196 posted on 06/20/2015 5:24:05 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ravenwolf
So although the Catholics do hold Peter as first pope they get many of their teachings from Paul.

...but many of their PRACTICES from MARY!

197 posted on 06/20/2015 5:24:49 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
The Catholic teachings are all based on the Bible and the teachings of Jesus, except where protestants and others misrepresent these teachings.

This is a PROVABLE lie!

198 posted on 06/20/2015 5:25:56 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
The Catholic teachings are all based on the Bible and the teachings of Jesus, except where protestants and others misrepresent these teachings.

Huh?

199 posted on 06/20/2015 5:26:23 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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placemarker


200 posted on 06/20/2015 5:33:30 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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