[StormPrepper]

The Bible teaches that Yeshua, the son, is eternal, not a part of time/space.

Funny, that's not what John says
John 1:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.

John says there was a beginning that Jesus was there for.

You say eternal and John says there was a beginning. Beginning is a starting point. That begs the question of, beginning of what? Hmmmm?

And if He's always been with the Father, how can one be a Father and one a Son? Father's come first.

With the doctrines of the Nicean churches barring your way, you'll never get to the truth of that question.

[editor-surveyor]

John says nothing to indicate that Yeshua had a beginning any more than God would then have had the same beginning.

All he said is that they were there in the beginning, and that he was God.

The Father designation is primacy, not the same as a biological Father.

You’re trying to stretch the word of God to agree with your Freemasonry.

[editor-surveyor]

By the way, stuff your ‘nicean’ nonsense!

[ealgeone]

A study of Greek would benefit you in understanding the Word.

[CynicalBear]

>>John says there was a beginning that Jesus was there for.<<

It says He was already there at the beginning. It doesn't say He had a beginning. He was already there at the beginning. Why would you inject a meaning not there?

[Elsie]

With the doctrines of the Nicean churches barring your way, you'll never get to the truth of that question.

What 'doctrines' would that be?

Does MormonISM have a list of them for us to look at; or are they like the boogyman that little kids get scared with?

Here is the Nicean creed.

PLEASE!

for the sake of men's SOULS; tear it apart and show us what is WRONG with it!!!

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We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, the maker of heaven and earth, of things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the begotten of God the Father, the Only-begotten, that is of the essence of the Father.

God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten and not made; of the very same nature of the Father, by Whom all things came into being, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible.

Who for us humanity and for our salvation came down from heaven, was incarnate, was made human, was born perfectly of the holy virgin Mary by the Holy Spirit.

By whom He took body, soul, and mind, and everything that is in man, truly and not in semblance.

He suffered, was crucified, was buried, rose again on the third day, ascended into heaven with the same body, and sat at the right hand of the Father.

He is to come with the same body and with the glory of the Father, to judge the living and the dead; of His kingdom there is no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, in the uncreated and the perfect; Who spoke through the Law, prophets, and Gospels; Who came down upon the Jordan, preached through the apostles, and lived in the saints.

We believe also in only One, Universal, Apostolic, and Holy Church; in one baptism in repentance, for the remission, and forgiveness of sins; and in the resurrection of the dead, in the everlasting judgement of souls and bodies, and the Kingdom of Heaven and in the everlasting life.