Because that's what the Mormon is saying....
Wow check out the interdimensional mind reading skills on you.
Here's something you really need to pay attention to...
Here's an exert:
"That is, someone's subjective judgments are "projected" to be inherent properties of an object, rather than being related to personal perception."
In other words, NO, that's not the Mormon is saying at all, because...well...he never said it..but that's what you wanted him to say....badly.
This is typical of cults to redefine words to not mean what they mean.
Notice the blatant
red herring.
A red herring is defined as:
Logical Form:
Argument A is presented by person 1.
Person 2 introduces argument B.
Argument A is abandoned.
Bless your heart, in case you want to try again, I'll post what you avoided below: (Nobody likes a quitter)
1 John 4
9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
Heb 11
17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
If you could just twist that pretzel a liiiiittttle bit more you'd have those dog gone Mormons right where you want them...
But before we go on, there's that little problem of how the writers of the books in the Bible use the word "begotten" and "begat".
Genesis 5:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
Philemon 1
10 I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:
The list of the usage of Begat and Begotten is quite long so I'll narrow it down to four for the sake of brevity.
Please explain how John's usage of "begotten" is different than everyone else's use of the word "begotten".
P.S. I am neither nasty nor mean. I realize you probably didn't think your
low brow anti-Mormon BS would get you boxed in like this. If it's too much for you to handle, you may request mercy and I'll let it go. You'll then be free to move on to other low brow anti-Mormon or anti-Catholic BS.
Sorry junior....you need to explain the mormon definition of this first.
My experience with cults such as mormonism is they redefine words to mean what they want them to.
You denied there was a physical relationship between God and Mary even though lds leaders have said there was. If I remember correctly you claimed no lds leader ever said that in post #878......
>>physical relationship between God the Father and Mary<<
BTW, this has never been said by any LDS leader. Go ahead and quote it and I'll expose your presumptive leap and then I'll redirect you back to James 2.
.....to which I replied:
This matter was a little changed in the case of the Savior of the world, the Son of the living God. The man Joseph, the husband of Mary, did not, that we know of, have more than one wife, but Mary the wife of Joseph had another husband. On this account infidels have called the Savior a bastard. This is merely a human opinion upon one of the inscrutable doings of the Almighty. That very babe that was cradled in the manger, was begotten, not by Joseph, the husband of Mary, but by another Being. Do you inquire by whom? He was begotten by God our heavenly Father. This answer may suffice you—you need never inquire more upon that point. Jesus Christ is the only begotten of the Father, and he is the Savior of the world, and full of grace and truth. It is not polygamy that men fight against when they persecute this people; but, still, if we continue to be faithful to our God, he will defend us in doing what is right. If it is wrong for a man to have more than one wife at a time, the Lord will reveal it by and by, and he will put it away that it will not be known in the Church. I did not ask Him for the revelation upon this subject. When that revelation was first read to me by Joseph Smith, I plainly saw the great trials and the abuse of it that would be made by many of the Elders, and the trouble and the persecution that it would bring upon this whole people. But the Lord revealed it, and it was my business to accept it. http://journalofdiscourses.com/11/41
.....to which you did not reply to.
Below again I have given you a quote from a lds leader on this same topic on how Jesus was created from the Mormon perspective....and it's not the first time nor is it the only quote I've provided that you've ignored.
You need to explain what this means from a Mormon perspective as cultists like to redefine words.
Well, now for the benefit of the older ones, how are children begotten? I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father ... Prophet Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pp.125,126
Christianity teaches Jesus has always existed. He was not created as in the false teachings of Mormonism as exhibited above nor is Lucifer His brother as Mormons claim.
When mormon leaders say these things....what do they mean?
The clear meaning of their words, or some mormon redefining of how children come into the world?
My bet is that you either cannot or will not answer the question....which is common for cultists.
Sometimes you can prepare for the storm; but it gets you anyway...
TOM AND DeLORES JOHNSON never reached their storm shelter late Friday afternoon, July 1, when an EF-1 tornado blew into Belview. They didn’t have time.
But for the Johnsons, that turned out to be a good thing.
“The storm shelter was ripped up by the big tree that stood next to it…we would have been injured
or possibly killed if we would have been in it,” DeLores surmises.
Instead, they managed to seek protection in the basement of their 1898 home.
The storm cellar where the Johnsons would have sought protection had they had time to reach it.
