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To: StormPrepper
Sorry junior....you need to explain the mormon definition of this first.

My experience with cults such as mormonism is they redefine words to mean what they want them to.

You denied there was a physical relationship between God and Mary even though lds leaders have said there was. If I remember correctly you claimed no lds leader ever said that in post #878......

>>physical relationship between God the Father and Mary<<

BTW, this has never been said by any LDS leader. Go ahead and quote it and I'll expose your presumptive leap and then I'll redirect you back to James 2.

.....to which I replied:

This matter was a little changed in the case of the Savior of the world, the Son of the living God. The man Joseph, the husband of Mary, did not, that we know of, have more than one wife, but Mary the wife of Joseph had another husband. On this account infidels have called the Savior a bastard. This is merely a human opinion upon one of the inscrutable doings of the Almighty. That very babe that was cradled in the manger, was begotten, not by Joseph, the husband of Mary, but by another Being. Do you inquire by whom? He was begotten by God our heavenly Father. This answer may suffice you—you need never inquire more upon that point. Jesus Christ is the only begotten of the Father, and he is the Savior of the world, and full of grace and truth. It is not polygamy that men fight against when they persecute this people; but, still, if we continue to be faithful to our God, he will defend us in doing what is right. If it is wrong for a man to have more than one wife at a time, the Lord will reveal it by and by, and he will put it away that it will not be known in the Church. I did not ask Him for the revelation upon this subject. When that revelation was first read to me by Joseph Smith, I plainly saw the great trials and the abuse of it that would be made by many of the Elders, and the trouble and the persecution that it would bring upon this whole people. But the Lord revealed it, and it was my business to accept it. http://journalofdiscourses.com/11/41

.....to which you did not reply to.

Below again I have given you a quote from a lds leader on this same topic on how Jesus was created from the Mormon perspective....and it's not the first time nor is it the only quote I've provided that you've ignored.

You need to explain what this means from a Mormon perspective as cultists like to redefine words.

Well, now for the benefit of the older ones, how are children begotten? I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father ... Prophet Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pp.125,126

Christianity teaches Jesus has always existed. He was not created as in the false teachings of Mormonism as exhibited above nor is Lucifer His brother as Mormons claim.

When mormon leaders say these things....what do they mean?

The clear meaning of their words, or some mormon redefining of how children come into the world?

My bet is that you either cannot or will not answer the question....which is common for cultists.

1,053 posted on 06/03/2015 6:42:07 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
BTW, this has never been said by any LDS leader.


 

 

1,138 posted on 06/04/2015 11:49:00 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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