Being “subject to the Pontiff” does not include following immoral commands.
Odd, I did not see that exception stated......
That would be your own personal interpretation, unless you have a source for such an exception. And please don't quote scripture, as that would be your own personal interpretation as well.
Second, what gives you the right to judge the morality of a Pontiff's orders? That again would be your own personal interpretation; your opinion of his decree.
So it is your interpretation that your opinion is greater than the Pontiff's command.
Researching subjection to the Roman pontiff is interesting. It seems the prevailing Catholic interpretation is that subjection to the Roman pontiff is absolutely necessary for the salvation of Roman Catholics, but not for anyone else. This reconciles the infallible last sentence of Unam Sanctam with Vatican II.
Further research shows the commerce clause of subjugation to the Roman pontiff. "We declare that in no way do we wish to usurp the jurisdiction of the King...And yet, neither the King nor anyone else of the faithful can deny that he is subject to us where a question of sin is involved."
So if sin is involved, then the Roman pontiff rules supreme and even Kings must bow. In the life of man, where isn't sin involved? Yup, exactly like the commerce clause.
You’re not going to have any choice for those who are catholics...short of leaving the church. It’s not just Francis... he’s simply the mouth-piece for the Vatican and their aligning with the Globalist Agenda...that is where the church is and heading further with. Regardless of who is Pope...the trajectory is there and moving forward.
There seems to be some debate on that within your church 'walls.'
Saint Catherine of Sienna: "Even if the Pope were the Devil incarnate...."
Catherine set high standards – for herself, for her friends, for priests and prelates, and especially for the Holy Father. Again and again she urged the popes, first Gregory XI and later Urban VI, to act like Christ: manly, forgiving, honest, loving. Even if a pope did not act like “sweet Christ on earth,” Catherine believed that the faithful should treat him with the respect and obedience they would show to Jesus Himself. “Even if he were an incarnate devil, we ought not to raise up our heads against him – but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom.”
She wrote to the Florentines, who were rebelling against Pope Gregory XI: “He who rebels against our Father, Christ on earth, is condemned to death, for that which we do to him, we do to Christ in heaven – we honor Christ if we honor the pope, we dishonor Christ if we dishonor the pope… I tell you that God will and has so commanded that even if the priests and the pastors of the Church and Christ on earth were incarnate devils, it is seemly that we are obedient and subject to them, not for their sake, but for the sake of God, out of obedience to Him, for He wills that we should act thus.
http://indefenceoftheholyfather.blogspot.com/2013/12/saint-catherine-of-sienna-even-if-pope.html#!/2013/12/saint-catherine-of-sienna-even-if-pope.html
Oh?
Who gives a mere human the RIGHT to decide what is 'immoral' or not?
A zillion little popes running around could get confusing.
Who decides what is immoral and what isn't? Isn't that what Frank is there for? To keep the laity from having to make any personal interpretations?
Otherwise what separates you from the Protestant rabble?