Posted on 05/16/2015 9:53:54 AM PDT by marshmallow
Bishop Juan Vicente Córdoba says 'no one chooses to be gay or straight'
ROME — A Colombian bishop, insisting that being homosexual is not a sin, said Thursday it’s possible that one of the twelve apostles of Jesus was gay or that Mary Magdalene, another key New Testament figure, was a lesbian.
Bishop Juan Vicente Córdoba of Fontibón, Colombia, also said the Catholic Church does not oppose same-sex couples making a life together, but does not consider such arrangements to be a marriage or a family.
“No one chooses to be gay or straight,” Córdoba said. “One simply feels, loves, experiments, is attracted, and no attraction is bad.”
Córdoba was speaking at a conference about gay marriage and adoption hosted by the local University of Los Andes, at a time when Colombia is debating gay marriage and adoption rights.
Although Córdoba reiterated Church teaching when it comes to marriage – that it’s a union between a man and a woman, permanent, and open to children – he said that homosexuality isn’t a sin.
“Sin is something else. It’s not respecting the dignity of others. Not loving God and our neighbors as we love ourselves, not feeding the hungry, not giving water to the thirsty,” Córdoba said.
He added that he prefers “a thousand times over” for Colombians to have dignity, a proper health system and food for all, rather than talking about whether they’re gay or straight.
According to local reports, Córdoba said that in the Bible there’s no explicit rejection of homosexuality, suggesting there’s no basis for making a condemnation of homosexuality a Church doctrine.
“We don’t know if one of Jesus’ disciples” had a same-sex orientation, he said. “We don’t know either if Mary Magdalene was a lesbian.”
In the New Testament, there are hints that Mary Magdalene, a....
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Nobody ever explains how Sodom Gommorrah devolved into deranged rapists. Chances are, the details would be pretty scary for a number of reasons.
Colombian bishop apologizes for ‘gay apostle’ remarks
ROME — A Colombian bishop who said that one of Jesus’ 12 apostles could have been gay, or that Mary Magdalene, another key figure of the New testament, could have been a lesbian, has apologized for his “unfortunate colloquial expressions.”
Bishop Juan Vicente Córdoba of the Colombian diocese of Fontibón said Friday that he embraces the moral teachings of the Catholic Church when it comes to same-sex relationships.
http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/05/16/colombian-bishop-apologizes-for-gay-apostle-remarks/
Thanks.
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>>Yeah, attraction does not equal behavior. I may be forever stuck attracted to nicotine, but that does not mean that I have to start smoking again. I may have a strong liking for the taste of pizza, donuts, and Reese’s peanut butter candy, but that does not mean I have to eat huge amounts of those foods which contain low nutritional value, and I am just getting started...
Your food addictions are not exactly the same as sex with children.
This is what the bishop said: “No one chooses to be gay or straight, One simply feels, loves, experiments, is attracted, and no attraction is bad.”
“Experiments” means that you succumb to your attraction and he says that none of them are bad.
The fact that no one could see anything the least bit odd about asking for someone’s guests to have sex with seems to indicate that all moral boundaries had been lost in the entire culture, no doubt a little at a time.
We are not there yet.
I can’t make the nicotine cravings ever be completely gone. I am stuck with them. But that is separate from whether or not I actually will or do smoke.
theres a dopamine connection to nicotine cravings
smoking cuts down on the bodys ability to produce dopamine our inherent “built in” feel good chemical..without smoking
smoking is then required to get the human body to produce dopamine
its a nasty trick and thats what causes the BIGGER part of the addiction
I still smoke but I also use L-Tryptophane to boost dopamine production
I dont know of a twelve step stop smoking group out there that ever mentions this core stuff.
There is no evidence that homosexual behavior is more a matter of irresistible impulse than of choice. If it is, then that means the person is to a degree, insane.
Yes, and the coping takes a long time to get easier as well. Thanks for the input.
So, even in his “apology” he calls it “disordered conduct”, not a sin.
If so, what measure are being pursued to discipline/excommunicate him?
If none, why are any Catholic FReepers still affiliating with this den-of-iniquity cult?
Where do you get the idea that they were the only humans?
Cain could have fallen many centuries after his birth, after many generation has come into being and spread to different regions.
He insulted the apostles in a failed effort to make sinful behavior lovely. This guy will go super low to promote his central cause in life which is not Jesus.
God bless and help him...me too.
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