Are you infallible?

One Fold ^ | December 10, 2013 | Brian Culliton

[CynicalBear]

Isaiah 44:8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one."

God, Jesus, says He is the only rock and knows of no other and you Roll on the floor laughing at MamaB for agreeing with God?

[CynicalBear]

>>Christ established His Church. One, not many.<<

How many "churches" did Jesus have John write to in Revelation?

[editor-surveyor]

Peter has nothing whatsoever to do with any of this.

Yeshua didn’t claim to be founding any church in Matthew 16, he said that he would expand his already large, invisible assembly. There is nothing about any church in God’s word.

[Salvation]

It is Luke a disciple of fChrist's Church -- the Catholic Church -- who tells us:

Reading 1 Acts 11:19-26

Those who had been scattered by the persecution
that arose because of Stephen
went as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus, and Antioch,
preaching the word to no one but Jews.
There were some Cypriots and Cyrenians among them, however,
who came to Antioch and began to speak to the Greeks as well,
proclaiming the Lord Jesus.
The hand of the Lord was with them
and a great number who believed turned to the Lord.
The news about them reached the ears of the Church in Jerusalem,
and they sent Barnabas to go to Antioch.
When he arrived and saw the grace of God,
he rejoiced and encouraged them all
to remain faithful to the Lord in firmness of heart,
for he was a good man, filled with the Holy Spirit and faith.
And a large number of people was added to the Lord.
Then he went to Tarsus to look for Saul,
and when he had found him he brought him to Antioch.
For a whole year they met with the Church
and taught a large number of people,
and it was in Antioch that the disciples
were first called Christians.

If Barnabas and Paul could belong to a Church -- why can't you?

[CynicalBear]

Isaiah 44:8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one."

Did God maybe forget or something?

[FatherofFive]

How many "churches" did Jesus have John write to in Revelation?

Great question.

There is a Catholic Church in New York. There is a Catholic Church in Boston. There is a Catholic Church in San Diego. And on and on. Many Churches. One Church.

All these Churches are one. One Body. One spirit.

There is no question on what the meaning of what the meaning of the word 'is' is.

[smvoice]

I have a small question: Was Paul given any keys? Or was he, like the 11, under Peter’s leadership? I ask because of 1 Cor. 3:10-11. Where Paul writes by the Holy Spirit, of being a masterbuilder and laying a foundation. Would he not be given keys to what he is being told to build? He cannot be building the same foundation that Peter was given the keys to, the Messianic Church. Paul says he has laid a foundation and other are building on IT, therefore he cannot be building on the foundation that Peter was given the keys to.

[CynicalBear]

Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

What doctrines do Protestants here agree on?

[Jim Noble]

There is something, however, that is clearly older than any Protestant or Roman Catholic Church and that is the written books of the Bible

False, and completely so.

You need to get into early church history. Christ's church predates the New Testament in its present form by several hundred years.

[CynicalBear]

>>the first Protestant must claim something that his opponent does not have; namely, the charism of infallibility.<<

False. When There is no infallibility needed when using scripture alone. Scripture is infallible.

[FatherofFive]

Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

Great verse. Explains why we should all be Catholic. No differences between us.

[FatherofFive]

Scripture is infallible.

It is. But some people don't accept the plain words of Scripture. They think "This is my body" means this represents my body.

[CynicalBear]

>>The Church teaches the Truth.<<

Unfortunately for Catholics it's NOT the Catholic Church. Paul said anyone who taught something they didn't should be considered accursed. The Catholic Church teaches many things the apostles didn't teach.

[MamaB]

You want a one world religion?

[CynicalBear]

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Does the Catholic Church teach things the apostles did not teach? Yes or no?

[MamaB]

Thanks. Why can’t they understand that? That church, today, teaches a lot of nonsense. They should read the Bible more.

[FatherofFive]

You want a one world religion?

That is what Christ asked "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"

[CynicalBear]

>>Why do you follow that made up belief if it is not in Scripture?<<

You mean like the assumption of Mary?

[CynicalBear]

>>But when Christ says, "This IS my Body" many times in Scripture, you don't believe it. Amazing.<<

John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Jesus said He was bread.