To: Carpe Cerevisi
Okay, so, what's "The Vatican"?
And so, what in particular was unrealistic when Ratzinger kicked the hornet's nest with his Regensberg lecture?
To: Carpe Cerevisi
Holy Koran - Really?
There is no Saint Mohammad - So, either his supernatural visitations were a lie, and did not occur.
-—OR-—
They were not divine visitations, but rather demonic. If they were truly divine visitations, simply, there would be a Saint Mohammad.
The vatican archives, no doubt, have the Church’s true thoughts on Mohammad. We all know he never started down the path to Sainthood, so the truth MUST be damning, literally.
3 posted on
04/24/2015 7:54:44 AM PDT by
Triple
(Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery ea)
To: Carpe Cerevisi; Gamecock; metmom; RnMomof7; daniel1212; Mark17; BlueDragon; CynicalBear
In what is an ongoing frustration for many Catholics, the Vatican continues to insist on friendly relations with Islam. It started with Nostra Aetate #3 and Lumen Gentium #16, neither of which are particularly compatible with what the saints previously said about Islam. Since the Second Vatican Council, this innovative understanding of a religion Catholic thinkers like Belloc have characterized as a great heresy continues to spiral. In Evangelii Gaudium #253, Pope Francis asserts that authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence. More recently, there has been common prayer in the Vatican gardens (where the imam went off-script and used subversive, anti-Trinitarian language in Arabic). Meanwhile various Islamic groups have been talking about conquering Rome. Who's ready for a quote from the Catechism?
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims.
"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
6 posted on
04/24/2015 8:00:48 AM PDT by
Alex Murphy
("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
To: Carpe Cerevisi
If the Vatican chose to get real about islam, they would raise an army.
7 posted on
04/24/2015 8:00:51 AM PDT by
Enten
(I don't have islamophobia...I do have islamonausea)
To: Carpe Cerevisi
15 posted on
04/24/2015 8:15:23 AM PDT by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Carpe Cerevisi
More recently, there has been common prayer in the Vatican gardens (where the imam went off-script and used subversive, anti-Trinitarian language in Arabic).
"Let any Bishop, or Presbyter, or deacon that merely joins in prayer with heretics be suspended, but if he had permitted them to perform any service as Clergymen, let him be deposed." -Canon XLV of the Apostolic Canons
18 posted on
04/24/2015 8:46:05 AM PDT by
NRx
(An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
To: Carpe Cerevisi
22 posted on
04/24/2015 10:49:42 AM PDT by
Biggirl
("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
To: Carpe Cerevisi
Its Time for The Vatican to be Realistic About IslamIt sounds more like the Vatican is saying it's about time you guys get real about the Catholic religion and Izlam...
It's pretty clear to me that the majority of Catholicism agrees with the Vatican's positions
23 posted on
04/24/2015 12:21:44 PM PDT by
Iscool
To: Carpe Cerevisi
It is a lack of discernment
30 posted on
04/24/2015 3:45:36 PM PDT by
RnMomof7
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