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Example: One man, reciting mumbo-jumbo in a dead language over a piece of bread in front of several dozen superstitious victims who have been brainwashed to believe that god is going to torture them forever since they day they were born, claims, absent any scientific or rational evidence, that his magicks have transformed the bread into the literal body of a man dead 1500 years. Another man claims the same ritual works in the same way, but that his magicks simultaneously transform the bred and continue to leave it [somehow] as bread.

Yes, that is arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. You, my FRiend, are the one holding and saying ridiculous things, not me. This is merely one of them.

Both died as a consequence of the excesses produced by their deadly fantasies.

Ironically, both men died because they believed that it was more important for the King of England to maintain a farcical "marriage" whose sole purpose had been arranged for political reasons, than it was to avoid another dynastic war that would probably kill tens of thousands more Englishmen.

This despite the fact that both men knew quite well that Henry had -- under the law of the Jews -- already invalidated his marriage by countless adulteries and the production of no one knows how many bastards.

Tyndale came to this opinion long before More, who was holding out hope that his master in Italy would find another argument about dancing angels that could allow him to support the king. Unfortunately, the Bishop of Rome understood that the marriage to Catherine was political, and gambled -- foolishly as history shows -- that because of a hundred years of Plantagenet mismanagement England was on the decline and he needed to tie his fortunes to the Continent.

He lost, and in losing, the Christians of England traded the Church of Tweedledum for the Church of Tweedledee.