Prayers For, To,and Through the Dead

Reformed Apologetics Thoughts of Francis Turretin Blog ^ | April 21, 2009 | Francis Turretin Fan

[MHGinTN]

I often wonder why some resort to that fallacy, the undistributed middle. Is God a murderer? No, and when His life comes into your human spirit, His character begins to show forth, which includes not murdering people. To quote a well know source, ‘Be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind.’

[SumProVita]

I really don’t think that’s necessary. Good Christians can discern that pretty readily. The enemy knows scripture VERY well. Thus, it’s not the use of scripture per se. It’s the attitude of the one using that scripture. We all need to check our heart to see what is REALLY motivating us in many situations. If one senses oneself or the other engaging in some sort of a competition to be the one who is RIGHT, that one should immediately back out.

[Salvation]

But is everyone transformed in such a way. Or do they still sin?

That’s what I am getting at. We are weak because of our free will. We all sin and all times in our life.

Where and when do we take responsibility for our own actions?

[MHGinTN]

So God is not able to save until the end of the journey, is that what you believe? Are you not familiar with the scripture which points out that the fire will consume the works but by that same fire the person is cleansed? Do you not understand the context of that teaching? It is about works, and behavior after confessing Christ is works. He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us. I don’t need a Priest to do that since I have The Great High Priest as my Savior.

[MHGinTN]

"I will build My CHURCH" Did you miss it? Did the Holy Spirit come prior to Pentecost? Is the Holy Spirit in the believer the mark of Christianity, the Gospel of Salvation?

[mlizzy]

But there are people who are more of a sensitive nature that should probably not view the open threads. But scroll on by...

Sort of like real bloody car wrecks; you never know if you should stop (and try to help) or not. But I always have.

[MHGinTN]

As The Cross is applied to the past and present, so it is applied to the future. When we stumble we have an advocate, Jesus Christ The Righteous. Having lived in the flesh we also have, He knows we are tempted. If we could be saved then be unsaved then be saved again then the scriptures would be telling us a lie. The episode in the desert with the rock and striking it for water to gush forth is a lesson we ought learn well.

I have a free will. I sin. I have an advocate Who has made a promise and I know of a surety that He will not break His promise. We take responsibility for our own actions when we bow our knee and say Thank You Lord Jesus for Being my Savior. We cannot be worthy of His Grace. We cannot become worthy of His Grace. We can only accept it. Once we accept His Grace, we live by His promises. If you see one who claims to be born again and they are constantly sinning, living as if the Holy Spirit is not in them, you may know that they are none of His.

Greater is He that is in you than He that is in the world. Jesus said 'My sheep hear my voice' ... by the presence of His Spirit within your now alive human spirit you hear His voice. As my Lord, I want to please Him by living through His presence in me. I fail at times, usually where my temper is at issue. But He does not leave me when I make a fool of myself living my way not His. Thanks be to God, He lives in me, so that if I defeat the old man in me it is to His glory not mine, for I cannot of myself do it, only His nature in me can transform what was dead in trespasses and sins yet is now alive forever more because He is Risen and in me as He was in the Father (John 14).

[Salvation]

This is one of the most pleasant responses I have received, although I don’t quite agree with all of it.

Thank you so much. Good night.

[MHGinTN]

Pax Vobiscum

[mlizzy]

We all need to check our heart to see what is REALLY motivating us in many situations. If one senses oneself or the other engaging in some sort of a competition to be the one who is RIGHT, that one should immediately back out.

Yes! I agree! Amen and amen!

[MamaB]

Yeah, some Catholic posters are very good at that when they do use scripture.

[MamaB]

Yes, Jesus is the Rock. . Isn’t that wonderful? There is a wonderful song about that. We use to sing it a lot in the different churches I have attended over my 71 years. “On Christ, the solid Rock I stand, all other is sinking sand....”

[Mark17]

I ask your prayers and those of everyone else of whatever faith for the continued progress of my health through the merits of Jesus Christ and in His name. Jesus Christ is my Lord And Savior as He is yours.

Prsyers offered for you sir.

[Bodleian_Girl]

You are bashing people on this thread by falsely accusing them of bashing you! The OP stated what the bible says in comparison to man made tradition.

[Iscool]

Oh ..now that’s an interesting remark....do please enlarge on that. I’m interested. Care to “teach”?

Ha! No, I'm not a bible code kind a guy...I was just playing on the statement in post #26 to CynicalBear...

I do however agree with CB in post #62 that Jesus revealed that the O.T. canon was closed long before Jesus showed up and not decades after his Crucifixion, eliminating any connection to the canon with the Catholic religion...

I am fascinated tho by what appears to be something in numerology connected with the scriptures...

[Iscool]

The Pharisees accused Jesus of being possessed by the devil.

I figure I’m keeping good company if we non-Catholics are being compared to the devil.

And that's the same Catholic crew that accused Paul of teaching falsely and called it heresy...

Act 24:13 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.
Act 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

I just love that...They considered Paul a heretic for worshiping God and believing the scriptures...

[Iscool]

So you can go out and murder someone and still go to heaven?

What a farce this is.

Of course we can...It would be good if we were remorseful tho...

Hey, you guys got the same rule...If you commit a mortal sin and confess and repent, you get to go to purgatory, don't you???

[Iscool]

The church did not add them ... they were included in the Jewish translation of the bible into Greek that was used in the early church and by Jews until the rabbis removed them in 90 AD

Well how could they be when the extra books were not recognized by the Jews or Jesus as scripture?

[Iscool]

To state a disagreement in someone else’s doctrinal belief, even to defending ones own, is fine and dandy. It is when people from one denomination cast aspersion on the followers of other denominations, when Christian denominations are labelled “cults”, when people are told they are going to hell, when people are told they are wrong in their belief and must change to what other believe — all that Christian infighting can’t please the Lord God, or Christ his Son.

So there is no correct nor incorrect doctrine to you???And there is no correct nor incorrect gospel???

[Mark17]

While sin does not cost the saved person their salvation, that does not by any means mean that they can or will get away with it. God disciplines those He loves and since we are legitimate children, we will be disciplined for the sin we commit, but we will not be disowned (lose our salvation)

I have always said the most miserable person on earth, is not the lost, Hell bound sinner, but the born again, saved person who is straying from the straight and narrow, and gotten out of the fellowship that he/she knows they should be in. I have been there. I have gotten out of fellowship, and been under the heavy hand of God, in chastening. It was by far, the worst time in my life, as the Lord had to give a few raps across the knuckles, just to get my attention. It was not a fun time.