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To: MHGinTN

But is everyone transformed in such a way. Or do they still sin?

That’s what I am getting at. We are weak because of our free will. We all sin and all times in our life.

Where and when do we take responsibility for our own actions?


183 posted on 04/22/2015 9:07:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
As The Cross is applied to the past and present, so it is applied to the future. When we stumble we have an advocate, Jesus Christ The Righteous. Having lived in the flesh we also have, He knows we are tempted. If we could be saved then be unsaved then be saved again then the scriptures would be telling us a lie. The episode in the desert with the rock and striking it for water to gush forth is a lesson we ought learn well.

I have a free will. I sin. I have an advocate Who has made a promise and I know of a surety that He will not break His promise. We take responsibility for our own actions when we bow our knee and say Thank You Lord Jesus for Being my Savior. We cannot be worthy of His Grace. We cannot become worthy of His Grace. We can only accept it. Once we accept His Grace, we live by His promises. If you see one who claims to be born again and they are constantly sinning, living as if the Holy Spirit is not in them, you may know that they are none of His.

Greater is He that is in you than He that is in the world. Jesus said 'My sheep hear my voice' ... by the presence of His Spirit within your now alive human spirit you hear His voice. As my Lord, I want to please Him by living through His presence in me. I fail at times, usually where my temper is at issue. But He does not leave me when I make a fool of myself living my way not His. Thanks be to God, He lives in me, so that if I defeat the old man in me it is to His glory not mine, for I cannot of myself do it, only His nature in me can transform what was dead in trespasses and sins yet is now alive forever more because He is Risen and in me as He was in the Father (John 14).

187 posted on 04/22/2015 9:25:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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But is everyone transformed in such a way. Or do they still sin?

Yes, everyone who is saved has the Spirit of God in them and is transformed that way. The only difference is what stage of maturity they are at and what GOD sees fit to work on them and in them at the moment. It's what HE knows is most important, not what people think.

And yes, we still sin. It happens. But it doesn't cost us our salvation. That kind of thinking, that if we sin, we lose our salvation, is exactly the kind of thinking in a works based salvation religious system. If you think you can lose your salvation because of sin, then you are depending on works to save you and keep you saved. It is no longer faith.

That’s what I am getting at. We are weak because of our free will. We all sin and all times in our life.

There is no such thing as free will. Not one human is a free, independent moral agent. Only God is. Yes, we choose, but we cannot even come to God unless the Holy Spirit draws him. Jesus told us so Himself. We are either slaves to sin or slaves to Christ.

We do not own ourselves, much as the human ego would like to think so.

Where and when do we take responsibility for our own actions?

We take full responsibility for our actions all the time. That is why we are accountible for them and guilty of sin.

211 posted on 04/23/2015 5:21:55 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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