[9thLife]

Please mark this a Catholic Caucus thread.

[ravenwolf]

A good thread.

We do need to take into consideration that Jesus said in
Matthew 7

6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Rend means they will tear you apart, destroy.

If Christians are trying to Govern the world they are giving that which is holy to the dogs and casting their pearls before the swine.

[Biggirl]

Thank-you for this excellent posting. This posting is truly in keeping with the Bible.

[daniel1212]

Even in this Easter season, there are those who would nervously employ the secular convention of saying that they want Christ but not his Church, and that they can confess their sins to God without confessing to a priest. This ignores what Jesus did when he rose from the dead: he constructed the Church through his teaching during the forty days before the Ascension, and the first thing he did when he appeared to the apostles was to give them authority to forgive sins in the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

Which is another example of typical extrapolative eisegesis, anachronistically reading NT presbuteros distinctively being titled "priest" (“hiereus”), which is nowhere seen in the NT, nor that of the basis for it, that their primary and unique function was that of sacrificing transubstantiated flesh and blood as a sin offering, to be consumed to obtain spiritual life.

In addiction, the power of binding and loosing was not a new function, but one which was given to the OT magisterium, and while the spiritual (nor only judicial) aspect of that was realized more fully in the NT (and God has regard to intercessory prayer, which can obtain mercy in the case of chastisement for sin) primarily thru presbuteros (not hiereus), yet this spiritual power is also provided for all righteous believers. (Mt. 18:19,20; Ja. 5:16-18))

[Elsie]

he constructed the Church through his teaching during the forty days before the Ascension,

Then He did a mighty poor job!

The first thing John starts off with in Revelation is lambasting the ERROR those churches in Asia were teaching!!