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Feds press megachurch to return $300K donated by Michigan's largest Ponzi schemer
M Live ^ | April 04, 2015 | John Agar

Posted on 04/06/2015 6:20:25 AM PDT by Gamecock

GRAND RAPIDS, MI -- As he gave generously to Resurrection Life Church in Grandville, David McQueen was fond of saying he was "blessed to be a blessing."

Trouble is, McQueen, the mastermind of a $46 million Ponzi scheme, donated others' money. By the government's tally, it was $300,000.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Matthew Borgula sought its return as part of an ongoing effort to reimburse victims, in a small way, with some of the money taken by McQueen.

The church rejected the request.

"Resurrection Life Church had no knowledge of the source of the funds, nor was it in any way complicit with this donor," The Rev. Bernard Blauwkamp, secretary of the church's Board of Elders, wrote in a letter obtained by MLive and The Grand Rapids Press.

The letter, addressed to Borgula, said elders "have read and considered the detailed information contained in your email of November 26, 2014, regarding the tithe monies and gifts given to the church by Mr. David McQueen. We were saddened to hear the news of his wrongdoing, and pray that God will work in his heart and life and bring repentance.

"We have prayerfully considered your request that the Church return all or part of this donor's gifts and tithe monies, and must respectfully decline to do so."

The U.S. Attorney's Office, the FBI and IRS are working to find assets that can be used to pay restitution. The government has already seized cash, boats, vehicles and a Florida condominium, which represent a "small fraction of the total loss," the government said in a letter to the victims.

The federal agencies have asked third parties to voluntarily contribute to pay restitution.

"For instance, the government has asked that Resurrection Life Church, which received over $300,000 in stolen funds from David McQueen in the form of donations, return the money to pay restitution," a victim-witness assistant wrote in a notice to victims.

Blauwkamp said inclusion of the church's letter in the notice was "grossly inappropriate" and unfairly singled out the church in an attempt to make it look bad.

"It's unprofessional to include that letter, like we're to blame," he said. "The guy to blame is in jail."

The church has received several calls from victims who received the emailed information via a victims' services e-mail.

Blauwkamp said the church, which opened its books to the FBI, had only minor disagreement with the figures provided by the government. He said that McQueen's donations came in a three-year period, beginning in 2006, when the church was involved in a building project.

"That was six years ago. You don't have money laying around that long. We feel for the victims. It's not like we have a pile (of money) to be distributed," he said.

The church spends its money as it comes in, providing families with food and help with utilities, aiding various agencies in the area and furthering "our Church's mission to help spread the gospel of Jesus Christ locally, nationally and around the world," Blauwkamp said.

Noting McQueen was ordered to pay $32 million in restitution, Blauwkamp wondered if others who benefited - from the dealership that sold McQueen a Land Rover, to the IRS for collecting taxes on his ill-gotten gains - would also be asked to ante up.

"What about the $31,700,000? Do they have a list of the other people that did business with him?"

Blauwkamp said the federal government "painted us in a bad light, and I believe unjustly."

McQueen joined the church in 1997 but by 1999 was no longer active. Blauwkamp didn't know him, but that's not unusual in a megachurch.

McQueen said in a biography he was "blessed to be a blessing" -- before anyone realized he was actually robbing investors. He operated perhaps the state's largest Ponzi scheme.

Borgula has called him "one of the worst kinds of financial predators. He's so arrogant he thinks he's infallible."

McQueen, 44, was sentenced to 30 years in federal prison. He is in a medium-security facility in Oxford, Wisc.

Borgula declined to comment Friday.

U.S. Attorney Patrick Miles Jr., in a statement to MLive and The Press, said: "The U.S. Attorney's Office must try to return assets stolen from innocent investors as restitution. We requested that various third parties voluntarily reimburse or return funds from David McQueen. We will continue our objective to keep victims apprised of our efforts."

Earlier, Borgula said McQueen left over 800 victims. People mortgaged houses, cashed in IRAs and handed over retirement savings.

McQueen had enlisted legitimate insurance salesmen to invest in his company. Many victims trusted their insurance agents.

McQueen was convicted in a six-week jury trial of multiple mail-fraud and money-laundering charges.

Several others were convicted, too. Trent Francke, who, like McQueen, lived in Byron Center, held the second-highest position in the organization. He took a plea deal and is serving seven years in prison after testifying against McQueen.


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To: the_daug; Mechanicos

**Money is fungible and the church may not be legally responsible.**

I agree 100%.

There is a higher law that a church is accountable for though.


41 posted on 04/06/2015 7:23:15 AM PDT by Gamecock ("The Christian who has stopped repenting has stopped growing." A.W. Pink)
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To: ifinnegan

Physical property is usually recoverable, cash not so much.

In some cases physical property is un recoverable. My step mother’s father bought a house that was later determined to be built with stolen lumber and materials. Obviously they couldn’t tear the house down and take the materials back.

Fortunately as soon investigators showed up at his house he retained an attorney. The feds did try and fail to bill him for the sales tax on the individual materials.


42 posted on 04/06/2015 7:25:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Gamecock

As an American, I’m more predisposed to calling Islam a “supposed religion” than I am for some self-identified Christian church, frankly. If it is a scam church, then they likely have their books in order, and a lawyer on staff, to boot.

I don’t care, really. The money this crook took is gone or has been recovered to the extent that it can and this government is just flexing its unlegalized power. If it is stolen, PROVE it. If was received illegally, PROVE it.

Otherwise, they can take a hike and go find a DA and a judge and set a trial. We’ve all heard the government can indict a ham sandwich....do it or STFU.


43 posted on 04/06/2015 7:29:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gamecock

I agree with you. Even if not legally obligated, they should give it back. God doesn’t need stolen money. If they are really about enlarging His kingdom, they should consider what keeping the money does to their testimony. They should consider how they appear to the victims. I am certain my congregation would not keep the money and we are a tiny group of only 100-120 people. Even so, we would find a way to repay every penny.

Even though the money is fully legal, some churches have refused donations from lottery winners because they understand the social harm lotteries do to the underclass.


44 posted on 04/06/2015 7:40:19 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Gamecock

Ass a witness I agree they should return the money. But if the church does not have cash any admission to owing the money would open an avenue to litigation to force the return on condition dictated by a court.


45 posted on 04/06/2015 7:41:19 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: Gamecock

“The difference her is there were no services received.”

That’s nonsense.

“It was a donation to a supposed church.”

Your bias Is clouding your reasoning.


46 posted on 04/06/2015 7:44:00 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

> Answer the questions I asked.

No ;-)


47 posted on 04/06/2015 7:53:43 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Dr. Sivana

Actually, that’s likely the Michigan State Employee’s Pension Fund. . . Amway, for all its’ pyramid marketing, at least sells a good product.

Civil “servants”. . . not so much. .


48 posted on 04/06/2015 7:56:31 AM PDT by Salgak (Peace Through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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To: Gamecock

Clearly the church accepted the donations in good faith. That said, it was stolen property. Generally stolen property is subject to legal clawback as long as the crime is not outside the applicable statute of limitations. (In those cases the law gets murky and there is some variation between jurisdictions.) Unfortunately the law does not offer much relief for whoever has the misfortune of holding the hot goods at the time it is discovered that they belong to someone else. The only exception would be if they church actually did not have the money or it would be bankrupted by its return. In such a case they might be able to argue in court that it was simply not in their power to return it. However, I don’t think that this is the case.

In any event, and legal questions aside, morally the church has no claim to the money and it must be returned. A victim of theft does not lose claim to their property because it has been fenced or passed on by the thief.


49 posted on 04/06/2015 7:57:37 AM PDT by NRx (An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
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To: Gamecock

How much money do you suppose the Catholic Church, among others, accepted in donations from various mafioso the last 100 years or so? Do you think the Catholic Church would ever give any of that money back?

That church probably doesn’t have that kind of money available and as they said ti has been spent on construction projects, among other things. Should we balance out the practical good they may have done with it? Just a thought.


50 posted on 04/06/2015 8:05:12 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood
"various mafioso the last 100 years or so?"

Or people that broke the law speeding on their way to church, or who might have stolen something in their life?

51 posted on 04/06/2015 8:28:12 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: glorgau

Why not?

Your analogy didn’t hold because cigarette packs don’t cost 500 dollars.


52 posted on 04/06/2015 8:29:35 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: cripplecreek

Just like hitting on a pretty girl, it doesn’t hurt one bit to ask just for the one in a million shot they feel sorry for you and say yes.

Now for them to push further than just asking is when it will start to get interesting.


53 posted on 04/06/2015 8:36:54 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: showme_the_Glory

Or someone who cheats on their taxes and drops it in the collection plate instead. Or for that matter, if the feds simply feel that they aren’t collecting enough by normal means, just take it from the church instead.

Its a damn slippery slope.


54 posted on 04/06/2015 8:53:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: ifinnegan

No, they actually have the car. This particular fraudster bought rare cars. They exist and they are being sold to provide restitution to the defrauded parties.

If the car was totalled it would be unrecoverable. If the fraudster donated money to a soup kitchen and the soup has been eaten, there is no recovery.

But when he donates it to a (very ostentatiously wealthy) church, then the plaintiffs can sue the church on the grounds of fraudulent conveyance to get that money back. In this case there’s a statute of limitations problem, so we’ll see how the courts decide, but I do have a consistent position. It’s called American case law and the US legal system. If you don’t like it move somewhere else.


55 posted on 04/06/2015 9:11:29 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: cripplecreek

this isn’t the government trying to take money from a Church for it’s own account, it’s a Federal prosecutor trying to restore stolen funds to wronged plaintiffs. So dumb.


56 posted on 04/06/2015 9:13:20 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: NRx; ifinnegan
In any event, and legal questions aside, morally the church has no claim to the money and it must be returned. A victim of theft does not lose claim to their property because it has been fenced or passed on by the thief.

What you said. Excellent description of the issue at hand.

57 posted on 04/06/2015 9:17:26 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: babble-on

Its unrecoverable.


58 posted on 04/06/2015 9:18:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Gamecock
Maybe the church should offer a partial reimbursement after:

1. The IRS returns taxes associated with the fraud;
2. The insurance agents are forced to return all of their commissions;
3. Errors and omissions insurance carriers pay out on their policies;
4. The companies that made deals with this guy return their gross profits;
5. Any political contributions made are returned; and,
6. Every other person/organization who benefited financially from the misappropriated funds.

59 posted on 04/06/2015 9:51:26 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: garyb

Michigan is very friendly for creditors. Much more generous than in most states.

Statute of limitations in the State of Washington for open accounts one year. Once had some company that tried to sue in small claims court for money I did not owe went away when I cited the statute and the case law in my response.


60 posted on 04/06/2015 9:59:40 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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