Posted on 04/04/2015 1:59:27 PM PDT by Steelfish
The Resurrection & The Eucharist by Fr. Rodney Kissinger S.J. (Former Missouri Synod Lutheran) http://www.frksj.org/homily_ressurection_and_the_eucharist.htm There is an important connection between the Resurrection and the Eucharist. The Eucharist IS the Risen Jesus.
Therefore, the Eucharist makes the Resurrection present and active in our lives and enables us to experience the joy and the power of the Resurrection. The Resurrection is the reason for the observance of Sunday instead of the Sabbath. According to the Gospel it was early in the morning on the first day of the week that the Risen Jesus appeared to Mary Magdalene.
It was also on the evening of that first day of the week that the Risen Jesus appeared to the Apostles when Thomas was not present. Then a week later, on the first day of the week, he appeared again when Thomas was present.
So the Apostles began to celebrate the first day of the week, Sunday, as the beginning of the re-creation of the world just as they had celebrated the Sabbath as the end of the creation of the world. Originally the Liturgical Year was simply fifty-two Sundays, fifty-two celebrations of the Eucharist, fifty-two celebrations of the Resurrection. Today the Eucharist is still the principal way of celebrating the Resurrection and proclaiming the Mystery of Faith: Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again.
As we have seen the joy and the power of the Resurrection is not found in the empty tomb or in the witness of some one else it is found only in a personal encounter with the Risen Jesus. The Eucharist, the Risen Jesus, gives us an opportunity for this personal encounter. Will all who receive the Eucharist have a personal encounter with the Risen Jesus? Yes they will. Unfortunately, not all will recognize the Risen Jesus. Mary Magdalene had a personal encounter with the Risen Jesus but did not recognize him. She thought it was the gardener. It was not until she recognized Jesus that she experienced the joy and the power of the Resurrection. The two disciples on the road to Emmaus had a personal encounter with the Risen Jesus and thought that it was a stranger. It was not until they recognized him in the breaking of the bread that they experienced the joy and the power of the Resurrection.
The Eucharist is also a pledge of our own resurrection. I am the living bread come down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world. The Eucharist tells us that in death life is changed not ended. It is not so much life after death but life through death. Death is the door to life. This takes away the fear of death and gives us consolation at the death of a loved one.
The Eucharist also continues the two fold effect of the Resurrection which is to confirm the faith of the Apostles and to create the Christian Community. These are two sides of the same coin. To believe is to belong. Community was an integral part of the life of the first Christians. They were of one mind and one heart. When the Apostles asked the Lord to teach them how to pray, he taught them the OUR Father. In the Creed we say, WE believe. It is a personal commitment made in the community of believers.
The Eucharist also confirms the faith of the recipient and is the principle of unity and community. Without the Christian Community we lose our roots and our identity and our ability to survive in our culture which is diametrically opposed to Christ.
Through the Eucharist the Risen Jesus continues his two fold mission of proclaiming the Good News and healing the sick. Every celebration of the Eucharist proclaims the Good News and heals the sick. The Liturgy of the Word proclaims the Good News and the Liturgy of the Eucharist heals the sick. If people were healed simply by touching the hem of His garment how much more healing must come from receiving His Body and Blood?
How ridiculous it is then when people ask, Do I have an obligation to go to Mass on Sunday? If obligation is going to determine whether or not you go to Mass forget the obligation. You have a greater problem than that. Your problem is faith, you dont believe. You dont believe that the Eucharist IS the Risen Christ.
You just dont realize the connection between the Resurrection and the Eucharist. In just a few moments we will receive the Eucharist and once again have an opportunity for a personal encounter with the Risen Jesus.
Let us ask for the faith to recognize him in the breaking of the bread so that we are able to say with Thomas, My Lord and my God, and in so doing experience the joy and the power of the Resurrection.
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Although you did, as I presume, read this when I posted it to you two days ago, I will list the items for your convenience: The most important part of "Sacred Tradition" would be
We all depend on the canon of the Bible, and we all can thank God for providing that the Church, through Sacred Tradition, would preserve it through the centuries. It would have been lost, as the vast majority of ancient manuscripts of all sorts were lost, unless it were handed on (which is what "tradition" means: to hand on, tra - ducere.
) The other very important parts of Sacred Tradition would be
the basic forms of the Apostolic Hierarchy,
the Seven Sacraments,
the Sacred Liturgy, and
the teachings of the Magisterium which the contain and communicate the truths of faith and morals God intended to make known for mankind's salvation.
None of these things are hidden, secret or esoteric. Thy are all in writing; they are all in the lived customs, heritage and legacy of living communities of Faith which have been out there "for all to see" since the times of the Apostles.
STRAWM ARGUEMENT FALLACY.
Same challenge to any and all of you.
Pick a definition of Sola Scriptura, any definition and show it to me in the Bible.
And just so we are all clear on the meaning of the word DEFINITIONnoun
1. the act of defining, or of making something definite, distinct, or clear: We need a better definition of her responsibilities.
2. the formal statement of the meaning or significance of a word, phrase, idiom, etc., as found in dictionaries. An online dictionary resource, such as Dictionary.com, can give users direct, immediate access to the definitions of a term, allowing them to compare definitions from various dictionaries and stay up to date with an ever-expanding vocabulary.
3. the condition of being definite, distinct, or clearly outlined:
Just we are all clear I am looking for you to provide me with the definition of your choice of Sola Scriptura and then show me that exact same definition in the Bible.
Given that you all spend so much time in the word it should be no trouble at all.
straw man argument fallacy, and red herring fallacy.
I said one of your fellow prots.
Words mean things.
Never let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
Please show an infallible source other than scripture for what the apostles taught.
You mean be correct and show the facts in spite of the prots bearing false witness on a minute by minute basis? Yes we absolutely do that.
SIGH, I have been saying a Novena for you. I pray that God will chose to open your mind and soften your heart. I am also praying that if He chooses not to that He will have both pity and mercy on you.
Why do you insist on using a tertiary definition when there was a perfectly good word Christ could have used if He had wanted to say “Born again”
I would also want to draw your particular attention tothis fine article on the "Todah," which is the Jewish sacrifice of thanks and praise so intimately connected with the Liturgy of the Eucharist.
Do get back to me with any quesitons, if you wish. http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/religion-and-philosophy/apologetics/from-jewish-passover-to-christian-eucharist-the-story-of-the-todah.html
You seem to be pretty knowledgeable about this stuff...
How many of the English words of the scriptures are there that used the tertiary meaning of the translated Greek and Hebrew words???
Oh ye of unsurpassed intellect and impeccable character, I leave it to you to discover what the Capital T represents in these words...
Joh 3:3
Jesus
answered T
and
said
unto him, T
Verily, T
verily, T
I say T
unto thee,
Except T
a man T
be born T
again, T
he cannot
see T
the
kingdom T
of God. T
I understand what you've written, however from my side of the table you've committed blasphemy. Assuming we're around a table and not in opposing trenches.
And now I'm off to Mass where I'm going to commit "idolatry" in reparation for your "blasphemy".
41.53 γεννάω ἄνωθεν (an idiom, literally to be born again); παλιγγενεσίαa, ας f: to experience a complete change in ones way of life to what it should be, with the implication of return to a former state or relationto be born again, to experience new birth, rebirth.However, it is true the expression can refer to some kind of "above-ness." But which one? Place, or Time. From the Intermediate Greek-English Lexicon (IGEL):
γεννάω ἄνωθεν: ἐὰν μή τις γεννηθῇ ἄνωθεν unless a person is born again Jn 3:3. It is also possible to understand ἄνωθεν in Jn 3:3 as meaning from above or from God (see 84.13), a literary parallel to the phrase ἐκ θεοῦ ἐγεννήθησαν in Jn 1:13. In Jn 3:3, however, Nicodemus understood ἄνωθεν as meaning again (see 67.55) and γεννάω as physical birth (see 23.52).
παλιγγενεσίαa: διὰ λουτροῦ παλιγγενεσίας καὶ ἀνακαινώσεως new birth and new life by washing Tt 3:5. The metaphor of new birth is so important in the NT that it should be retained if at all possible. In some languages new birth can be expressed as to cause to be born all over again or to have a new life as though one were born a second time. See also 13.55.
ἄνωθεν, -θε, (ἄνω) Adv. of Place, from above, from on high, Hdt., Trag., etc.; ὕδατος ἄνωθεν γενομένου, i.e. rain, Thuc.: from the upper country, from inland, Id.This is something one has to respect when dealing with the Greek. They have a very flexible way of reusing parts of speech in both temporal and spatial settings, and within those categories there can be a wide range between the concrete and the abstract. In this case, as the IGEL entry demonstrates, "anothen" can be either spatial above-ness (simple "above"), or temporal above-ness, i.e., going back to Time Zero and starting over, from which we get the simplified "again."
2. = ἄνω, above, on high, Trag.; οἱ ἄν. the living, opp. to οἱ κάτω, Aesch.:c. gen., Hdt.
II. of Time, from the beginning, Plat., Dem.:by descent, Theocr.; τὰ ἄν. first principles, Plat.
2. over again, anew, N.T.
Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen. For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring: And they shall spring up as among the grass, as willows by the water courses.And
(Isaiah 44:2-4)
Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live. So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.Whether Jesus was thinking of these specific passages I cannot say, but clearly whatever Nicodemas missed, it was something Jesus considered obvious teaching of the OT, something no true teacher of Israel should have missed, concerning the new birth.
(Ezekiel 37:9-10)
I can’t take you seriously since your dispute is with the Catholic Church who uses the term “born again” in it’s own Bible. If you are a Catholic you must conform to it’s use of “born again”.
Your religion gets this idea of tradition (specifically ORAL tradition) from an idea pilfered from the scriptures...
2Th_2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
In the history of your religion, who first speaks of this oral tradition that was handed down from the apostles and when and to whom was was it given...And when and where is this tradition first recorded in writing as acknowledged to have been handed down by oral tradition???
Seems to be a big blank there as if this stuff just showed up without any explanation...Like someone invented it...
Your religion continues to invent its tradition...If a new dogma shows up tomorrow, by the next day it's Catholic tradition...
Thank you for the excellent post... Have a blessed Lords day
Ping to 572 for my FR friends
Thank you. A most blessed post.
Hebrews 13:15 By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name. 16 But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.
The more I learn about the Catholic religion the more abhorrent it becomes.
Anyone reading this thread, will not be able to stand before God on judgement day and say they were never told ...everyone has been warned..
You see Legatus, every pagan believed that his idol was really a god.. so the fact that catholics believe that that cracker is really jesus does not help on judgement day ...that very belief is what will damn
And then try to co-op it to apply to baptism ...
I have no doubt you feel that way. When your god becomes a cracker or is encased in a cracker that cracker is what you worship. God said not to make any images of Him or bow down to some formed thing.
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