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To: Mrs. Don-o
We all depend on the canon of the Bible, and we all can thank God for providing that the Church, through Sacred Tradition, would preserve it through the centuries. It would have been lost, as the vast majority of ancient manuscripts of all sorts were lost, unless it were handed on (which is what "tradition" means: to hand on, tra - ducere.

Your religion gets this idea of tradition (specifically ORAL tradition) from an idea pilfered from the scriptures...

2Th_2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

In the history of your religion, who first speaks of this oral tradition that was handed down from the apostles and when and to whom was was it given...And when and where is this tradition first recorded in writing as acknowledged to have been handed down by oral tradition???

Seems to be a big blank there as if this stuff just showed up without any explanation...Like someone invented it...

Your religion continues to invent its tradition...If a new dogma shows up tomorrow, by the next day it's Catholic tradition...

574 posted on 04/12/2015 8:19:14 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
"Your religion continues to invent its tradition...If a new dogma shows up tomorrow, by the next day it's Catholic tradition."

This is not true, because you are not distinguishing between Sacred Tradition, which comes down to us from Apostolic times, and 'little-t' tradition which is just customary usage.

All of the Churches founded in the Apostolic era had and have Sacred Tradition. This can easily be verified, because all of them ---including not only the Roman Catholics, but also and especially the "Uniate" churches of the Chaldeans, Melkites, Maronite, the Orthodox, the non-Byzantine churches of the East (such as the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, the Assyrian Church of the East, the Eritrean Church, the Armenian Apostolic Church and the Egyptian [Coptic] Church) --- also called Oriental Orthodox --- you'll find all of them have deacons, priests,and bishops ( Sacred Hierarchy); you'll find all of them have Sacred Liturgy and Sacraments; all of them venerate, and invoke the intercessory prayers of Mary and of the Saints who have gone on before us; all of them trace back to the Apostolic period when the Epistles and Gospels were being written, and they were learning from the very lips of the Apostles.

This includes Churches that are not now in communion with either Rome nor Constantinople.

The further down you dig; the further back you go; the further "Protestantism" recedes in your rear-view mirror.

586 posted on 04/12/2015 9:39:29 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic information)
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To: Iscool
2Th_2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

It seems to me that 'by word' and 'our epistle' hold equal weight here; the OR being the equalizer.

It would seem to me the WORD and the EPISTLE contained the SAME information.

If the word OR was; however; the word AND, then 'word' and 'epistle' would be DIFFERENT, and REQUIRE being used together.

(We know what the EPISTLE says...)

615 posted on 04/12/2015 3:27:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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