Praying of the Rosary Is NOT Bible-Based Teaching

The Disciplers ^ | 2011 | Ptr. Vince

[Elsie]

Let me inform you that your journey is not over.

[Colofornian]

This is perfectly inline with what the prophet Amos declared: Amos 3: 7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. This is how God does it when He wants to give us a volume of scripture. He instructs a prophet, the prophet completes the task and passes it along to us. Deciding on scripture without a prophet is unthinkable...

(Oh, you mean like Brigham Young saying that he had never preached a sermon [even given review/editing] that wasn't as "good as Scripture" ... and yet Mormons are frankly are downright embarrassed over MUCH of what Young & MANY other past "prophets" and "apostles" have preached and publicly disseminated?)

(You mean like Mormons who want to immediately honor the words of their "seers" as tantamount to direct revelation when they hear it at General Conferences...until...until...until... a group of their leaders get together...sometimes 40...62...74 years later...and declare as a man-made creed-like council that a certain statement was "scripture" after all...but 99.9% of what they said is somehow less than Scripture-level authoritative status?)

(Ya mean like Mormon "Apostle" but never Mormon "Apostle" Lyman Sherman? ... Early Mormon Sherman died without ever knowing he was called to be an apostle ... Apparently, Unknown to the Amos 3:7 'prophet' Joseph Smith," the Mormon god "calls" Sherman through Lds leaders, yet none of them had a "clue" that Sherman is dying? I thought the way the Mormons interpret Amos 3:7 would "kick in," that the Mormon god doesn't do anything without cluing in his "prophet"? Well, there goes that theory out the mormon window!)

(Ya mean like how Joseph Smith reports in the so-called Mormon D&C "scripture" that David W. Patten would go serve as a missionary. But then Patten dies in Missouri in Oct. 1838 without Patten ever having served such missionary status?)

I can see it now, SP.

Monson @ the next General Conference conveys to all that the Mormon god has called the "next" apostle. It's an "Amos 3:7 sure thing": But he dies, without EVER serving as an "apostle."

Oh well, concludes Monson. It's baseball season. Surely prophets get at least 2 strikes before striking out: So, he cites Amos 3:7, and says of all the missionaries being sent out, the one the Lord has assured him to be one is David W. Falsity of Falls City. Well, alas. David, dies, too.

But were this to happen, we at least know that this mishie's name would NEVER pop up in a future edition of the D&C. (That can't be said of the false prophesy linked forever to Patten's name!)

ALL: In understanding Mormonism, what's "interesting" is that Mormonism always touts having a "living prophet" (where they often cite Amos 3:7) so that they can present-tense revelational guidance given to their "seers." This is supposed to be one of the things they can look at with pride at what "sets them apart" from Christianity...(Of course, they fail to recognize that Jesus Christ HIMSELF...per Hebrews 1:1-2...remains our 'Living Prophet'...a title He no longer has to delegate to somebody else)

[Resettozero]

I know there is a creator. I know how he wants me to act. I follow his rules.

You follow some or all of his rules?

[Elsie]

It may be written in UNReformed Egyptian; still lying in the sand south of Aswan, on plates of, who knows; awaiting another Mormon Prophet to be led to the Dune Cumorah²...

[Elsie]

We should be working to embrace the 90% of what we agree on, not drive wedges in between the few things we disagree on.

I understand how you feel.

But one day last summer, after filling up my plate(s) with really good stuff from the buffet table, I got to the punch bowl.

And there, floating...

...After that; my appetite was just not the same.

[Vermont Lt]

Did I say some?

I follow his rules.

[HossB86]

No need to be snarky.

Just a little turn of phrase...

I know there is a creator. I know how he wants me to act. I follow his rules.

Good on points 1 and 2; if you're managing point 3, good on ya... I know I along with every other person ever born (save Christ) fails that test every single day. Thank God Almighty that he forgives sin when we repent.

But, I don’t tell my catholic relatives their prayers are wasted. (My term, not yours.)

No problem: I'll be happy to tell them -- but only if they're praying to someone other than God. :D

Hoss

[Vermont Lt]

I am late to this game: Mary did not bear Jesus?

[Elsie]

What about their beliefs about the nature of God?

What about them?

I don't recall that being on the test.

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But I'd imagine they'll have a mighty hard time believing in the CORRECT Jesus though, if they embrace them.

Jesus of Nazareth is the Savior.

Jesus of Lawns'R'Us is the gardener.

[Resettozero]

Did I say some? I follow his rules.

No, but you didn't specify which of his rules. I figured you followed his ten big rules just fine but wondered if you followed all the rest, as written in the Law given to Moses.

[Elsie]

But Jesus has both human and Divine natures.

Oh?

Human nature will get a person sinning.

GOD Himself doesn't HAVE a 'nature' HE IS!!

I am that I am

[Colofornian]

This is how God does it when He wants to give us a volume of scripture. He instructs a prophet, the prophet completes the task and passes it along to us. Deciding on scripture without a prophet is unthinkable...I mean, doing something like that and you could spend the next 2000 years trying to decide if you should baptize babies or not...oh wait...

Ohhh. You mean God wouldn't have us...
...deciding for generations...
...how many wives we might marry...
...that it would be "all clear" from the get-go...
...I see...
...Or that...
...God wouldn't have us...
...Refusing the priesthood to a certain skin color...
...For almost 150 years...
...but then doing an abupt u-turn...
...that color -- being such a surfacy, irrelevant (not to mention openly racist) basis -- would be "all clear" from the get-go...
...Or that...
...God wouldn't have his "prophets"
...preach from the pulpit for over 20 years...
...that Adam is God...
...that, instead...
...he'd make it quite clear all along Adam's mere mortal status...
...Or that if God was once a man...
...God would have openly stated so...
...At least, I guess, if not in Bible 1.0...
...then, if you believe in Bible 2.0...
...and Bible 3.0...
...and Bible 4.0...
...it would have somehow at least gotten...
...a clear depiction...
...versus trying to decide for the next umpteen years...
...If God the Father has a birth certificate lying around the universe somewhere...
...And leading to debate...
...What's happened to all those other gods...
...who came before him...

[Elsie]

(What? Did that hat he duck his head into become misplaced?)

It could have appeared in the JST; couldn't it??

[Resettozero]

I am late to this game: Mary did not bear Jesus?

I cannot get an RC to give me a clear-cut understandable answer to my question...

Why is the phrase "Mother of God" of such urgent importance to FRoman Catholics.

[DungeonMaster]

I don't recall that being on the test.

Some people probably thing the plan of salvation is the biggest doctrine, I think it's the nature of God. Mormons Flunk. Cathlics are a bit better believing in only 1.5 Gods.

[Elsie]

Why is the phrase "Mother of God" of such urgent importance to FRoman Catholics.

Say it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again; and it; too; will become pounded VERY deeply into YOUR mushy skull; too!

[Legatus]

Why is the phrase "Mother of God" of such urgent importance to FRoman Catholics.

Because of who HE is, not who SHE is.

[Elsie]

Some people probably thing the plan of salvation is the biggest doctrine, I think it's the nature of God.

Well; the BOOK indicates that THIS is what's going to happen:

Exodus 32:32-33
 But now, if you will forgive their sin—but if not, please blot me out of your book that you have written.”  But the Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will blot out of my book.

 

Daniel 12:1
 “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.

 

 

 

Philippians 4:3
 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.

 

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

 

Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

 

 

 

Revelation 17:8
 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

 

 

 

Revelation 20:11-15
"Then I saw a great White Throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and THE BOOKS WERE OPENED. Another book was opened WHICH IS THE BOOK OF LIFE. The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to their works.  Then death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, he was thrown into the lake of fire."

 

Revelation 21:27

Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

[Elsie]

Well; the BOOK indicates ...

So the question is:

HOW does your name get WRITTEN in that book to begin with?

And; similar to it; IS your name written there?

[Resettozero]

Because of who HE is, not who SHE is.

Interesting logic. To an RC, it no doubt explains why, as LC said, the title 'Mother of God' is repeated endlessly by RCs but is NOWHERE to be located in the Bible. Not even the 'concept' of it.