Posted on 03/23/2015 4:21:31 PM PDT by ebb tide
Only days after stripping the disgraced pervert Cardinal, Keith O'Brien of his title and power and sending him to retire quietly in a £200,000 cottage, Pope Francis; amidst the outrage of the people of the Diocese of Osorno in Chile has permitted another bishop to take his Cathedra - a man implicated in the scandal of sodomy and perversion and the abuse of three men from the time they were boys. Is this to be considered another "who am I to judge" episode as with Msgr. Ricca appointed to a high position within the Vatican Bank? If so, then the definition of scandal has been forgotten along with a real understanding of mercy for those victimised by the evil and perverted pederasts who performed abominable acts upon young boys of teenaged years.
Victims ignored
Bishop Juan Barros, formerly of the Military Ordinariate in Chile has been made Ordinary of the Diocese of Osorno. Juan Carlos Cruz Chellew, James Hamilton Sánchez and José Andrés Murillo Urrutia said on Crux that they were "accustomed to the blows we have received from the Chilean hierarchy, but never directly from the Holy Father. It is hard to believe that it was the Pope himself who said a few days ago: "families should know that the Church makes great efforts to protect their children, who have a right to address her with confidence, because it is as safe house."
The Pope knew
Since this appointment was announced in January, Chileans have been outraged. Crux further reports that "The Archbishop of Concepción, Fernando Chomalí, met with the Pope a few weeks ago and warned him that the Barros appointment was causing consternation in Chile, not only in the community of Osorno, but throughout the country. Pope Francis admitted to knowing the suffering of the victims of Karadima and the damage to the Chilean church. However — despite everything — the Pope, through the Nuncio in Chile, Ivo Scapolo, reconfirmed Barros without considering the facts and warnings of so many people, including priests and bishops. With pain we see that the faithful will have to accept and deal with Pope Francis’ decision. A pain and fear we know too well."
Yet, Pope Francis still proceeded in spite of the warning. This is a scandal to the people of Osorno; it is a scandal and an insult to the three victims assaulted by a homosexual pederast priest whilst the then Fr. Juan Barros, watched.
The world is watching
Crux has now been reporting on this since it broke last week at the Associated Press. Patheos has picked it up finally and the secular media from the Toronto Star to the BBC to Al Jazeera are running with the story.
The Pope must be accountable for this; not just to Almighty God, but to the smelly sheep in the periphery.
As I stated in an interview with "From Rome" - Let us not, as Catholics, give an exaggerated status to any pope along the lines of what our protestant friends think – an infallibility without respect for the Gospel, which he does not possess. The First Vatican Council defined it very clearly.
All the talk of mercy, thumbs up photographs and the washing of feet and the daily media spin from the manipulators in the Vatican Press Office won't fix this. The Pope himself is responsible for this and there is no spinning out of it.
It is a disgrace to Our Lord Jesus Christ and His Church.
In their dictatorship of mercy and condemnation of the Law and those who try to live by it some appear to have forgotten who is in charge.
In their dictatorship of mercy and condemnation of the Law and those who try to live by it some appear to have forgotten who is in charge.
it is a world of sin inhabitted by sinners in need of salvation .... really simple.
How can sinners obtain salvation if they pretend to be repentant but continue in their sins with no resolve to “sin no more”?
Sin, as a concept is perfect ... as is holiness
Perfection cannot exist in an imperfect world ... thus the need for salvation
Being born again AND a sinner is not a contradiction ..
Romans 7:14ff
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
“A recent paper by a Ph.D. priest from Poland has been circling the globe in recent weeks and given heightened prominence by the recent revelations of a Vatican inquiry into a “gay mafia” inside the Vatican. “Standing with the Pope against homoheresy,” was written in late 2012 by Fr. Dariusz Oko, Ph.D., a priest of the Archdiocese of Krakow and Assistant Professor at the John Paul II Pontifical University in Krakow.
Fr. Oko notes that his discovery of a “huge homosexual underground in the Church” came from his work in philosophical criticism of homosexual propaganda and ideology, a study he was encouraged to undertake by various bishops and cardinals.
“I began my work as a struggle against a deadly, external threat to Christianity, but then gradually discovered,” he said, that “the enemy is not only outside the Church, but within it, as well,”
In his essay, the philosophy professor reveals his own run in with a homosexual clique in the Roman Catholic Church blocking justice for those abused by homosexual clergy, in this case a homosexual bishop...”
“How can sinners obtain salvation if they pretend to be repentant but continue in their sins with no resolve to “sin no more”?”
Now wait a minute. I have been a Catholic all of my life.
I confess the same sins over and over again. I would say that I have gotten better on, but many; not so much... It’s pretty tough to do every thing right.
I would bet that your sins are pretty much the same as mine (unless your an axe murderer). And in spite of the “sin no more” clause, it continues.
The good part is that I recognize it immediately and back off...
But each time you confess, do you not firmly resolve to sin no more?
How can a divorced and remarried adulterer remain in an adulterous relationship with no resolve to end it, yet be given Holy Communion while in a state of unrepentant mortal sin?
Sounds like you a fan of the heretic Luther.
Let me rephrase the above, in Luther's "world":
Sin, as a concept is perfect in it's holiness.
Repentance is not understood in Christianity. Repentance or Teshuvah in Hebrew, means to return to G-d and return to keeping His Torah. It does not mean to feel sorry for your sins and tell G-d you’ll try to do better. Real repentance has always meant returning to Torah. Rome abandoned the Torah and sought to pick her way through the commandments like they were a Brunch Buffet, choosing the statutes that she could credibly blend with the Greco-Roman Paganism of the Empires’ masses. The result was a Jekyll and Hyde Institution that could produce great culture as well as great evil. What a mess! Now the whole structure is failing under the stress of Post Modern assaults and it does not have the ability to project power in a decisive way. Isam does not have this problem. The Answer is for Christians to return to their identity as grafted in branches of greater Israel. That would mean that they would say, “We were wrong! Help us to come home!”
“How can a divorced and remarried adulterer remain in an adulterous relationship with no resolve to end it, yet be given Holy Communion while in a state of unrepentant mortal sin? “
I’m not divorced and never will be... I’ve been married for 47 years to the same woman.
Committing adultery is of course a sin... But not any more so than working on the Sunday. Or using the Lord’s name in vein, or any of the other commandments.
You don’t think murder is a graver sin that a third grader cheating on a math test?
Why shouldn't a married man who divorces an adultress be allowed back into the Catholic church and allowed to remarry?
Come home to whom? Those who have rejected their Savior to this day?
You can ask any good, holy Catholic priest and you can ask Cardinal Kasper. You’ll get two opposite answers.
What part of for “better or worse” do you not understand?
Since I don't have access to either one, I'm asking you.......And since my dad is no longer alive, I can't ask him.
no comment
But that is not what I said
Or using the Lord’s name in vein, or any of the other commandments.
My apologies. I mistook you for another poster.
Again, I did not mean to direct that to you.
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