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Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
Proclaiming the Gospel ^
| March 18,2015
| Mike Gendron
Posted on 03/18/2015 6:21:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7
1/14/2015 8:04:57 AM
Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
It Is Finished - Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
The perfect, all-sufficient sacrifice of Christ that satisfied divine justice for all believers was accomplished 2000 years ago. Jesus cried out in victory - "It is finished." The work of salvation is done. The eternal debt for sin has been paid in full. No more offerings, no more sacrifices, no more priests! The Lord Jesus willingly died for mans sins to pay the debt that we could never pay. He Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness: by His wounds you have been healed" (1 Peter 2:24). Yet Catholics instead choose to trust in the sacrifice of the Mass, a blasphemous representation of a eucharistic Christ on an altar. They would rather trust the Sacrifice of the Mass as a sin offering to God rather than trusting in the one-time, all-sufficient, sacrifice of Christ.
Jesus appeared to take away sins once for all" by His sacrifice" (Hebrews 9:26). Through His blood God made Him the means of expiation (of sin) for all who believe" (Romans 3:25). Vatican II denies these sacred Scriptures by teaching: Sins must be expiated...on this earth through the sorrows, miseries and trials of this life and, a above all, through death. Otherwise the expiation must be made in the next life through fire and torments or purifying punishments (Vatican Council II). What a terrible deception to impose on faithful Roman Catholics who look to their church for the truth! The very reason and purpose Christ became man and suffered such an excruciating death was to expiate sin, once and for all, by His perfect sacrifice. How can any church, which claims to follow Christ, withhold this truth from its people and create in its place doctrines that nullify the Savior's finished work?
Roman Catholic teachings also nullify another accomplishment of Christ, the purification of sins. The writer of the book of Hebrews declared that "when He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high" (Heb. 1:3). The apostle John also proclaimed that those who trust Christ are purified from all sin, by His blood (1 John 1:7). Vatican Council II states that purgatory is where "those
who have not made satisfaction with adequate penance for their sins and omissions are cleansed after death with punishments designed to purge away their debt. Jesus reconciled the world to God, changing its relationship with God from hostility to harmony. The sinner is reconciled to God when he trusts in Christ as his Savior. "It is in Christ and through His blood that we have been redeemed and our sins are forgiven" (Eph. 1:7). Being reconciled to God is difficult for Catholics to comprehend, for they have been taught the only way to made peace with God is through a life long journey of works--receiving the sacraments, going to Mass and doing penance. The only response to the accomplishments of Christ that will reconcile anyone to God is repentance and faith.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: cross; expiation; purification; salvation
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To: pgyanke; CynicalBear
I gave Scripture citations for my argument. Will you please do the same?
Would giving the citation again on this FR thread be enough to change your mind and for you to come out of her?
To: verga
No actually Trent FORBIDS you from owning or reading a poorly translated version of the bible. Be a good boy and find these words for me.
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:09:19 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: pgyanke
Salvation history doesn't lend itself to slogans very well. Ha ha HA!!
Sola Script... ring a bell?
How about all of your endless HAIL Marys???
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:10:20 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: CynicalBear
Will NO one rid me of this meddlesome pest!!!
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:10:51 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Resettozero; D-fendr
Pro_4:2 For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law (Torah).
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:12:39 PM PDT
by
roamer_1
(Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
To: Regal; terycarl
Wisdom from the dimwits who gave us Jim and Tammy Baker, Jimmy Swaggart and snake handling. I dont thin so.Really??
Pope Stephen VI (896897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (10321044, 1045, 10471048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (12941303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (13781389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (14921503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (15131521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (15231534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:12:45 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: pgyanke; Resettozero
>>I gave Scripture citations for my argument. Will you please do the same?<<
Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:15:26 PM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: D-fendr
Because Scripture is sufficient of itself to be the final authority of Christian doctrine is not in Holy Scripture. Strange.
Philip used only the Book of Isaiah to convince the eunuch.
(I wonder what OTHER words he used as well?)
Oh well; they evidently were NOT unique enough to BE RECORDED!
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:16:11 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: pgyanke
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:17:30 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Resettozero
We found out how to run ONE of them off!
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:18:03 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Resettozero
I don’t think he’s gonna reply.
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:18:40 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: pgyanke
I thought you wuz leavin’??
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:19:16 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: CynicalBear
Thanks for that. I think it is now instructive to put the whole thing in context, Paul’s views regarding those in service of the Church:
“This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a bishop, he desires a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach, not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous, one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?), not a novice, lest being puffed up with a pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. Moreover, he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil”
1 Timothy 3:1-7
There you have it: The full job description for service in the clergy of the Church. Right there from St. Paul in the New Testament. It doesn’t get any clearer than this. Clearly marriage and children are permissible for those in service of the Church. I cannot make it any more clear than this. I don’t know why others insist on obfuscating the truth.
To: Elsie
Sure. Insults and invective work every time they’re tried. BTW, you should ping someone when talking about them.
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:29:59 PM PDT
by
pgyanke
(Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
To: pgyanke
BTW, you should ping someone when talking about them.
Only if mentioned by username. (You RCs are keen on making extra rules for everyone else to follow.)
To: Elsie; Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I thought you wuz leavin??TBEL called me back. I'm here to talk to a fellow Catholic who has questions on his faith. While I'm here, I will answer what I choose to.
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:31:45 PM PDT
by
pgyanke
(Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
To: pgyanke
While I'm here, I will answer what I choose to
As is your American right, by the Grace of God, and with the site operator's permission.
To: Resettozero; Elsie; Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Only if mentioned by username.As you have so clearly demonstrated, courtesy is not part of your general routine. BTW, I looked back on what I misquoted and you are correct, I did. Sorry about that. Too much typing and I mistyped your first word. It isn't my intent to mislead or misquote.
Once again, I am through dealing with this obnoxious thread that only continues to get more so. If I return, it won't be for either of you, it will be for TBEL.
Good day and may God bless you.
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:35:47 PM PDT
by
pgyanke
(Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
To: pgyanke
Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t question my faith not at all.
I question some of the Church’s misguided policies regarding compulsory clerical celibacy. A policy enacted by the First Lateran Council in 1123-—centuries after the founding of the Church.
I just proved beyond a shadow of ANY doubt that clerical marriage is permissible-—directly from St. Paul.
To: CynicalBear
Because it doesn't affect or pertain to salvation. Calvinism and Arminianism doesn't pertain to salvation?
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posted on
03/19/2015 12:40:17 PM PDT
by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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