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Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
Proclaiming the Gospel ^
| March 18,2015
| Mike Gendron
Posted on 03/18/2015 6:21:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7
1/14/2015 8:04:57 AM
Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
It Is Finished - Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
The perfect, all-sufficient sacrifice of Christ that satisfied divine justice for all believers was accomplished 2000 years ago. Jesus cried out in victory - "It is finished." The work of salvation is done. The eternal debt for sin has been paid in full. No more offerings, no more sacrifices, no more priests! The Lord Jesus willingly died for mans sins to pay the debt that we could never pay. He Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness: by His wounds you have been healed" (1 Peter 2:24). Yet Catholics instead choose to trust in the sacrifice of the Mass, a blasphemous representation of a eucharistic Christ on an altar. They would rather trust the Sacrifice of the Mass as a sin offering to God rather than trusting in the one-time, all-sufficient, sacrifice of Christ.
Jesus appeared to take away sins once for all" by His sacrifice" (Hebrews 9:26). Through His blood God made Him the means of expiation (of sin) for all who believe" (Romans 3:25). Vatican II denies these sacred Scriptures by teaching: Sins must be expiated...on this earth through the sorrows, miseries and trials of this life and, a above all, through death. Otherwise the expiation must be made in the next life through fire and torments or purifying punishments (Vatican Council II). What a terrible deception to impose on faithful Roman Catholics who look to their church for the truth! The very reason and purpose Christ became man and suffered such an excruciating death was to expiate sin, once and for all, by His perfect sacrifice. How can any church, which claims to follow Christ, withhold this truth from its people and create in its place doctrines that nullify the Savior's finished work?
Roman Catholic teachings also nullify another accomplishment of Christ, the purification of sins. The writer of the book of Hebrews declared that "when He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high" (Heb. 1:3). The apostle John also proclaimed that those who trust Christ are purified from all sin, by His blood (1 John 1:7). Vatican Council II states that purgatory is where "those
who have not made satisfaction with adequate penance for their sins and omissions are cleansed after death with punishments designed to purge away their debt. Jesus reconciled the world to God, changing its relationship with God from hostility to harmony. The sinner is reconciled to God when he trusts in Christ as his Savior. "It is in Christ and through His blood that we have been redeemed and our sins are forgiven" (Eph. 1:7). Being reconciled to God is difficult for Catholics to comprehend, for they have been taught the only way to made peace with God is through a life long journey of works--receiving the sacraments, going to Mass and doing penance. The only response to the accomplishments of Christ that will reconcile anyone to God is repentance and faith.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: cross; expiation; purification; salvation
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To: metmom
As a former Catholic in name only, myself, I concur. Fixed it for you.
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posted on
03/19/2015 7:20:03 AM PDT
by
verga
(I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
To: Gamecock
She is saved where she is, and no Papal incantations will change that!SNERK, if it makes your day a little brighter to believe that hooey, you just go right ahead. The rest of us will find comfort in the truth.
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posted on
03/19/2015 7:23:33 AM PDT
by
verga
(I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
To: CynicalBear
When the Catholic Church put scripture in second place to their tradition they put their followers in a rather untenable position when discussing scripture didnt they.This is why you fail. This is an incorrect understanding of the Church which I'm sure was taught to you by those who stand against the Church and your statement here only serves to perpetuate the lie.
The Church lays Her authority first on Christ as She is His Bride. Just as He opened the eyes of the Apostles on the Road to Emmaus, He taught the Apostles how to understand Scripture in light of the Gospel. This is the Deposit of Faith (Big "T" Tradition). Scripture is the inerrant Word of God, written. However, just like the Apostles needed explanation to see what had been hidden in the Old Testament since the dawn of time, so the Church has endeavored to explain through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit what is written for unity of faith through unity of understanding. Finally, the Church relies in the Holy Spirit Who was promised to teach Her all things by Christ. Through this inspiration, the Church has learned and taught an unfolding revelation She has shared. This is the Magisterium of the Church.
One way to look at it is that Scripture is the foundation, Tradition is the perspective to understand Scripture, and the Magisterium is the ear to hear the Spirit as He teaches us all things.
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posted on
03/19/2015 7:28:21 AM PDT
by
pgyanke
(Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
To: pgyanke
>>Tradition is the perspective to understand Scripture<<
Sure it is pgyanke. That's why even the Catholic Church itself has to admit that some of it's teachings have no basis is scripture. The so called "tradition" of the Catholic Church trumps scripture.
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posted on
03/19/2015 7:40:32 AM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: redleghunter
Show me in Torah where prayers for the dead are offered? 150 psalms recorded and not one plea for the dead. This is a dead issue.Torah observant Jews believe in both a oral and written Torah; praying for the dead is an ancient custom, as I have posted. To write it is not observed by Jews or Israelites who follow Torah is false. It is commonly observed by Jews and Israelites who follow Torah, ie., Orthodox Jews.
Show me in Torah where prayers for the dead are offered?
If I could, would you offer prayers for the dead ?
150 psalms recorded and not one plea for the dead.
Are you positive ?
This is a dead issue.
Well, it is about the dead so this is true.
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posted on
03/19/2015 7:49:29 AM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: CynicalBear
That's why even the Catholic Church itself has to admit that some of it's teachings have no basis is scripture.You mean like the life stories of Anna and Mary? The Bible isn't their story... but they each have a story that matters in unfolding revelation. Mary's story was passed through St John (who took Mary into his home at the direction of Christ on the Cross) and down through his disciples. The Bible itself declares it is not a catechism of all things (John 21:25). It tells the story of our Fall and Redemption. However, there are still stories out there that are real.
If we believe we are in the communion of saints, then you would have to admit that every saint has a beautiful story of God's providence. We only know these stories because they have been preserved and passed on... and they are profound. Non biblical, yes... but profound and instructive.
The so called "tradition" of the Catholic Church trumps scripture.
Again you spout a lie, despite all evidence to the contrary. The Church has never relegated Scripture to second place. However, Scripture requires the Church as teacher to fully understand it (Acts 8:26-40, 2 Peter 3:16, 2 Peter 1:20, 1 Tim 3:15).
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posted on
03/19/2015 7:53:25 AM PDT
by
pgyanke
(Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
To: CynicalBear; pgyanke
some of it's teachings have no basis is scriptureIf that stopped you, your sola scriptura foundation would disappear.
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posted on
03/19/2015 7:55:26 AM PDT
by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
To: CynicalBear
The sages decreed! Better take a look at what Jesus thought of the man made laws that had been added to the Torah.Yes, I know. Does this mean that you acknowledge Torah observant Jews offer prayers for the dead and that now you are going to attack them because both the Orthodox Christians and their elder brethren, Orthodox Jews (often even nonOthodox Jews also say Kaddish for departed close relatives) offer prayers for the dead while Protestants and all their derivatives do not ?
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posted on
03/19/2015 7:57:59 AM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: pgyanke
>>The Bible itself declares it is not a catechism of all things (John 21:25).<<
And rather than trust the Holy Spirit to have included all we need to know they took the liberty to make the rest up.>[? >>However, there are still stories out there that are real.<<
So Catholics have to put their full faith and trust in fallible man rather than trust the Holy Spirit to have included all we need.
>>We only know these stories because they have been preserved and passed on... and they are profound.<< >>The Church has never relegated Scripture to second place.<<
Of course they have. Scripture takes second place to many of the teachings of the Catholic Church. The importance of the doctrines regarding Mary would be just one of the examples.
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posted on
03/19/2015 8:05:34 AM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: D-fendr
>>If that stopped you, your sola scriptura foundation would disappear.<<
Still can't grasp what Sola Scriptura actually means ey.
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posted on
03/19/2015 8:06:57 AM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: af_vet_1981
Please show where God sanctioned praying for the dead.
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posted on
03/19/2015 8:08:27 AM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: CynicalBear
Please show where God sanctioned praying for the dead.If I do, will you pray for the dead, or will you seek another path to attack the Orthodox, Jews and Christians ? Then said they to him again, What did he to thee? how opened he thine eyes? He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be his disciples?
John, Catholic chapter nine, Protestant verses twenty six to twenty Deneb,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
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posted on
03/19/2015 8:34:23 AM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: af_vet_1981
Torah observant Jews believe in both a oral and written Torah; praying for the dead is an ancient custom, as I have posted. To write it is not observed by Jews or Israelites who follow Torah is false. It is commonly observed by Jews and Israelites who follow Torah, ie., Orthodox Jews.
There have not been true Torah observant Israelites since the era of Ezra. Jesus preached from Torah and not the traditions of men. He made every opportunity to condemn the Pharisees of their man-made traditions.
Again, what prophet, psalmist, king in the OT provides us the doctrine for praying for the departed?
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posted on
03/19/2015 8:37:28 AM PDT
by
redleghunter
(In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth (Gen. 1:1))
To: G Larry
214
posted on
03/19/2015 8:42:45 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: CynicalBear
what Sola Scriptura actually meansLiterally it means scripture alone or only.
As a doctrine? Depends on who you ask.
If that definition includes: "Scripture is sufficient of itself to be the final authority of Christian doctrine" then that doctrine fails its own test.
If it doesn't mean that, then those who claim it as their foundational doctrine don't have much of a foundation in sola scriptura.
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posted on
03/19/2015 8:43:25 AM PDT
by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
To: CynicalBear
.
Let that boy save himself!
.
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posted on
03/19/2015 8:44:34 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: verga
You are not a Catholic in good standing and are not permitted membership in the Knights until you are. I might suggest the Masonic lodge down the road they will put up with that nonsense.
YOU decided this? Based on his posts?
To: CynicalBear
There is no point to our conversation. No matter what I respond, you will continue to attack your own straw men.
May God bless you. Good day.
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posted on
03/19/2015 8:46:33 AM PDT
by
pgyanke
(Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
To: Gamecock
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We can only separate our selves, and many here are working on that task constantly.
.
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posted on
03/19/2015 8:47:33 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: verga
SNERK, if it makes your day a little brighter to believe that hooey, you just go right ahead.
Believing the Holy Bible instead of you is "that hooey"?
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