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DEMOCRATS FEAR A ‘CATHOLIC APOCALYPSE’
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| March 16, 2015
| TOM HOOPES
Posted on 03/16/2015 4:21:19 PM PDT by NYer
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To: redgolum
BJ Clinton and Obama won Hispanic areas as well (regardless of what denomination they belonged to); like Catholics, they are split between the parties. If Hispanics ever sign on to voting for Dems 99% of the time, they need look no further than the current plight of blacks to see where that leads...completely taken for granted.
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posted on
03/16/2015 4:48:07 PM PDT
by
kearnyirish2
(Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
To: FatherofFive
You are spot on.
Our problem has always required wholesale betrayal of the faith that has to occur to ever reach that liberal majority
of Catholics.
We are still thick with Pelosi types, socialists and social justice purveyors crowding out Tradition and solid teaching.
I’m doubtful but somewhat heartened to hear this liberal writer vouch think that the apostates have already left the Catholic Church, resulting in a more “conservative” (orthodox) composition of Catholics in the Church.
We will soon see.
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posted on
03/16/2015 4:49:21 PM PDT
by
RitaOK
( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
To: NYer
The democrats, esp. with the current racists they have in power, need to fear losing white people in general, not just Catholics.
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posted on
03/16/2015 4:51:15 PM PDT
by
jocon307
(Tell it like it is.)
To: Salvation
Ive been saying all along that there are more Catholic Republicans than Democrats. That isn't true at all, we all know how the Catholic vote goes, even you do, and blacks vote as a race, whether Catholic, Protestant, or atheist, or Muslim, or whatever, but their numbers are small and stable, we aren't importing millions and millions of more black voters, like we are Catholic voters.
The democrats are not counting on increasing numbers of black voters to take over more republican states, they are counting on Catholic voters to do that.
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posted on
03/16/2015 4:53:55 PM PDT
by
ansel12
(Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
To: redgolum; kearnyirish2; fieldmarshaldj; amnestynone; metmom; boatbums; caww; ...
Hope this is not too much, but much more
here on Catholic views vs evangelical.
Ethnic views section in particular -
Latinos make up about 40 percent of all U.S. Catholics (Pew Research states 33%); 70 percent of Latinos are Catholic; 23 percent of Latinos are Protestant or other Christian; 37 percent of the U.S. Latino population (14.2 million) self-identifies as born-again or evangelical (26% as born again); This figure includes Catholic charismatics, who constitute 22 percent of U.S. Latino Catholics; http://www.nhclc.org/news/latino-religion-us-demographic-shifts-and-trend -
In 2007, 68% of Latinos identified as Catholics, two-thirds being immigrants. 42% did not graduate from high school. 46% have a household income of less than $30,000 per year - lower than that of other religious traditions. The Latino electorate was overwhelmingly Catholic (63%), and 70% of all Latino eligible voters who identified as Democrats were Catholics. http://www.pewhispanic.org/2007/04/25/changing-faiths-latinos-and-the-transformation-of-american-religion/ -
15% of Hispanics overall identified themselves as evangelicals. 64% have at least a high school diploma, and about 39% have a household income of less than $30,000 per year Among Hispanic eligible voters who were evangelicals, 37% said they considered themselves Republicans and 32% said they were Democrats. http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedfiles/Topics/Demographics/hispanics-religion-07-final-mar08.pdf -
Among registered voters in 2007, 50% of white Evangelicals and 36% of Latino Evangelicals were Republican, 25% of the former and 36% of the latter were Democrats. 23% white Evangelical and 19% of Latino Evangelicals were Independents http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedfiles/Topics/Demographics/hispanics-religion-07-final-mar08.pdf -
70% of Latino registered voters in 2012 identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party, while 22% identify with or lean toward the Republican Party. 81 percent of Latinos with no religious affiliation were Democrats or Democratic leaning. http://www.pewforum.org/Race/Latinos-Religion-and-Campaign-2012.aspx#president -
73% of Latino Catholics surveyed said they favored Obama, versus 19% for Romney, while 50% of Latino evangelical Protestants (who accounted for 16% of all Latino registered voters) favored Obama, and 39% were for Romney. http://www.pewforum.org/Race/Latinos-Religion-and-Campaign-2012.aspx -
Latino Catholics made up 57% of the Latin electorate in 2012, and 71% are Democrats or lean toward the Democratic Party, while 21% identify with or lean toward the Republican Party. Among Latino evangelical voters, about half are Democrats or lean Democratic, while about a third are Republicans or lean toward the Republican Party. http://www.pewforum.org/Race/Latinos-Religion-and-Campaign-2012.aspx -
White, non-Hispanic Catholics express about as much support for same-sex marriage as Hispanic Catholics do (53% and 54%, respectively). White evangelical Protestants are somewhat more opposed to gay marriage (76%) than are Hispanic evangelical Protestants (66%). ^ -
Latino Evangelicals are 50% more likely than those who are Catholics to identify with the Republican Party, and are significantly more conservative than Catholics on social issues, foreign policy issues and even in their attitudes toward the plight of the poor. http://pewforum.org/surveys/hispanic -
54% of Hispanic Catholics believe that churches and other places of worship should be required to provide health care coverage that includes contraception, compared to 41% Hispanic Protestants. African American & Hispanic Reproductive Issues Survey by the Public Religion Research Institute, July 2012 -
80% of religiously unaffiliated Hispanics, and 62% of Hispanic Catholics, and 47% of Hispanic mainline Protestants support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry, versus 21% of evangelical Protestants (79% oppose same-sex marriage).http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Catholics-and-LGBT-Issues-Survey-Report.pdf -
52% of Hispanic Catholics say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, along with 74% of Evangelical Protestants. ^ -
30% of Hispanic Catholics say that having an abortion is morally wrong, compared to 7% who say it is morally acceptable. nearly 59% of evangelical Protestants say that having an abortion is morally wrong, compared to only 4% who say it is morally acceptable. ^ -
45% of Hispanic Catholics and 51% of mainline Protestants say that sexual relations between two adults of the same gender is morally wrong, compared to 16% of Catholics and 19% of mainline Protestants who say it is morally acceptable.10% of Hispanic Catholics and 4% of mainline Protestants believe the morality of same gender sexual activity depends on the situation, and 27% of Catholics and 23% of mainline Protestants say it is not a moral issue. ^ -
72% of evangelical Protestants say that sexual relations between two adults of the same gender is morally wrong, while 8% say it is morally acceptable. 6% say that the morality of the behavior depends on the situation and 14% say that it is not a moral issue. ^ -
51% of Hispanic Catholics and mainline Protestants say that it is possible to disagree with church teachings on homosexuality and remain a good Catholic or Christian, versus 70% of evangelical Hispanic Protestants who say it is not possible to disagree with church teachings on the issue of homosexuality and remain a good Christian. ^ -
12% of Hispanic Catholics, and 22% of Hispanic mainline Protestants and 50% of Hispanic evangelicals report that religion is the most important thing in their lives. ^ -
Catholics and mainline Protestants do not differ in the frequency of their religious attendance from Hispanics overall, while evangelical Protestants are significantly more likely to attend religious services regularly. -
5% of Hispanics report that they do not believe in God. Hispanic Catholics closely resemble Hispanics overall, with 59% believing God is a person and 32% believing God is an impersonal force. 69% of Mainline Protestants believe God is a person 25% believe God is an impersonal force (25%). 85% of Hispanic evangelical Protestants believe God is a person with whom one can have a relationship. ^ -
Black Catholics constituted 5% of the Catholic church (highly predominantly from the West at 11%, versus 4-6% elsewhere) in 2007, and 15% of evangelicals (based on denomination, and spread fairly evenly, even in the NE at 16%, but lowest in the West at 11%). http://www.pewforum.org/A-Religious-Portrait-of-African-Americans.aspx -
Blacks constituted 13% of the electorate in 2012. http://www.resurgentrepublic.com/research/2012-the-year-changing-demographics-caught-up-with-republicans -
77 percent of Black Protestants said they vote Democratic, whether they attended weekly services or not. 2008 The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. -
For those in black Catholic churches, political affiliation or leaning in 2007 was 17%/74% Republican/Democrat, and 11%/76% for black evangelical churches. Opposition to homosexuality 37% by black Catholics and 58% by black evangelicals. Opposition to abortion was 35% by black Catholics and 53% by black evangelicals. 66% of black evangelicals and 36% of black Catholics say they attend services at least weekly. http://www.pewforum.org/A-Religious-Portrait-of-African-Americans.aspx -
22% of Asian-Americans are Protestants and 19% are Catholic (while 26% are unaffiliated, with 52% of Chinese being so). .http://www.pewforum.org/Asian-Americans-A-Mosaic-of-Faiths-overview.aspx -
47% of Asian-American Protestants are or lean toward the Republican party, versus 36% Democrat. Asian-American evangelicals were at 56%/28%. Asian-American Catholics were at 42%/41% (Hindu Asian-Americans 9%/72% Republican/Democrat). ^ -
76% of Asian-American evangelical Protestants go to services at least once a week, followed by Catholics at 60%. Opposition to abortion and homosexuality is likewise higher among the former. ^
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71% of Evangelicals, 35% of Protestants and 25% of Catholics said that a candidates position on abortion would have a lot of influence on their decision of who to vote for in 2012. Likewise 63% of evangelicals, 35% of Protestants and 19% of Catholics and said a candidates position on homosexual marriage would have a lot of influence on their decision. Barna, April, 2011 http://www.barna.org/transformation-articles/482-voters-most-interested-in-issues-concerning-security-and-comfort-least-interested-in-moral-issues
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73% of Catholics polled say they believe Catholic politicians are under no religious obligation to vote on issues the way the bishops recommend, with 75% disapproving of denying communion to Catholics who support legal abortion, while 70% of Catholics say that the views of Catholic bishops in the US are unimportant to them in deciding for whom to vote, and 69% of say they feel no obligation to vote against candidates who support abortion. Belden Russonello & Stewart, "Secular and Security-Minded: The Catholic Vote in Summer 2008," Catholics for Choice, July 2008. http://www.catholicvote.net/page7/page22/page22.html
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According to a February, 2011 Pew forum survey, 44% of white evangelical Protestants agree with the Tea Party movement, with only 8% disagreeing, while 33% of white Catholics agree and 23% disagree. Only 12% of atheists/agnostics support it with 67% opposing. http://pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/Tea-Party-and-Religion.aspx
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In 2011, 70% of white evangelicals favored the GOP (up from 65% in 2004), compared with 24% who favored the Democratic Party.
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By 2011 the number of mainline Protestants favoring the Republican Party had jumped by six points to 51%, and Democratic support had dropped by six points to 39%. White mainline Protestants are now 12 points more likely to express support for the GOP than for the Democratic Party.
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49% white Catholics in 2008 supported for the Democratic Party and 41% identified as Republican or said they leaned toward the GOP. By 2011, the figures were reversed, 42% expressed support for Democrats and 49% for Republicans.
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White evangelicals under 30 are now more heavily Republican than those over 30 (82% vs. 69%). And among white non-Hispanic Catholics under age 30, support for the GOP has increased from 41% in 2008 to 54% in 2011.
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In 2011, all basic groups (all Catholic, Protestants, Mormons, Jewish, atheist/agnostic) showed increased support for Republicans.
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Religiously unaffiliated voters - the fastest growing block - 61% identified with or leaned toward the Democratic Party, versus 27% for Republicans. - http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/Trends-in-Party-Identification-of-Religious-Groups-affiliation.aspx
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65% of Catholics supported a tax increase for the wealthiest Americans in 2006, up from 52 percent in 2002. Majorities of Catholics support issues traditionally considered planks of the Democratic Party platform: universal healthcare, pro-labor policies, access to abortion, and social welfare programs for the poor. http://cara.georgetown.edu/NewsandPress/PressReleases/pr061808.pdf
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10% of Evangelical Protestants reside in the NE, 23% in the Midwest, 50% in the South, and 17% in the West. Catholics: 29% NE, 24% Midwest, 24% in the South, 23% in the West. Muslim Americans: Middle Class and Mostly Mainstream, Pew Research Center, 2007. http://religions.pewforum.org/comparisons#
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The population of Massachusetts ranks as the most liberal, with Boston and Cambridge being the most liberal large cities (100,000 or more), followed by California. http://www.epodunk.com/top10/liberal/index.html
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The 16 most Catholic states contain 24 of the most liberal cities. Excluding (Maryland 26th), predominately Roman Catholic states contain all but one (Seattle WA) of the 30 most liberal cities. Of states in which S. Baptists are the single largest denomination none (of the 30 cities) were found. (the term liberal being defined according to individual contributions to PACs, election returns and the number of homosexual households: http://www.epodunk.com/top10/liberal/index.html http://www.glenmary.org/grc/RCMS_2000/Catholic_findings.htm , http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html.
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The highest percentages of residents who describe themselves as Christian are typically in the South, including: Shreveport, LA (98%), Birmingham (96%), Charlotte (96%), Nashville (95%), Greenville, SC / Asheville, NC (94%), New Orleans (94%), Indianapolis (93%), Lexington (93%), Roanoke-Lynchburg (93%), Little Rock (92%), and Memphis (92%). http://www.barna.org/faith-spirituality/435-diversity-of-faith-in-various-us-cities
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73% of the populations of Charlotte and Shreveport held scripture in high regard, versus only 27% of the residents of Providence, Rhode Island [the most Catholic state] and San Francisco [the most homosexual large city]. ^
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The lowest percentages of self-identified Christians inhabited the following markets: San Francisco (68%), Portland, Oregon (71%), Portland, Maine (72%), Seattle (73%), Sacramento (73%), New York (73%), San Diego (75%), Los Angeles (75%), Boston (76%), Phoenix (78%), Miami (78%), Las Vegas (78%), and Denver (78%). Even in these cities, however, roughly three out of every four residents align with Christianity. ^
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The highest percentage of souls who tended toward being atheist or agnostic were in Portland, Maine (19%), Seattle (19%), Portland, Oregon (16%), Sacramento (16%), and Spokane (16%)
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Commitment to evangelism (agree strongly that a person has a responsibility to share their beliefs with others) saw the greatest percentage of endorsement by residents of Birmingham (64%) and Charlotte (54%), in contrast to residents of Providence (14%) and Boston (17%).
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posted on
03/16/2015 4:55:35 PM PDT
by
daniel1212
(Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
To: kearnyirish2
BJ Clinton and Obama won Hispanic areas as well (regardless of what denomination they belonged to) I wasn't aware that we had the Protestant Hispanic numbers for the Clinton elections, what are they?
We do have the numbers since 2000, and they are close to a 50/50 vote, unlike the consistent Catholic Hispanic vote.
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posted on
03/16/2015 4:57:33 PM PDT
by
ansel12
(Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
To: fieldmarshaldj
Precisely. I see a lot of “You can’t be Catholic and pro-abortion” bumper stickers at my Parish.
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posted on
03/16/2015 5:00:23 PM PDT
by
SampleMan
(Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
To: daniel1212
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posted on
03/16/2015 5:00:39 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: ansel12
When Hispanics move in the conservatives are voted out. Just ask Bob Dornan.
To: fieldmarshaldj
Democrats boo God at Convention..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUJE9YfsbNQ
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posted on
03/16/2015 5:04:12 PM PDT
by
Neidermeyer
("Our courts should not be collection agencies for crooks." — John Waihee, Governor of Hawaii, 1986-)
To: Karl Spooner
You ignored the point, the Protestant Hispanic vote, and the Catholic Hispanic vote, are two different votes, similar to how the Catholic and Protestant vote has always been in America.
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posted on
03/16/2015 5:07:14 PM PDT
by
ansel12
(Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
To: SampleMan
Precisely. I see a lot of You cant be Catholic and pro-abortion bumper stickers at my Parish. To the Pope, that is not acceptable. In essence, only the Church can decide, not the peons.
To: ansel12
I didn’t ignore anything. Bob Dornan lost because of the Hispanic vote.
To: ansel12
“This is nonsense, Catholic is a church denomination,”
No, it is not.
“not a race,”
No one is claiming the Catholic Church is a race. Did you even read the article?
“and whites have been leaving the denomination for decades,”
People of all races have been leaving or joining the Catholic Church in America for centuries.
“while the democrats have been importing Catholics and their offspring by the tens of millions.”
You do realize that only 55% of Latinos identify as Catholics, right? http://www.pewforum.org/2014/05/07/the-shifting-religious-identity-of-latinos-in-the-united-states/
To: Karl Spooner
So how did Protestant Hispanics vote in that election?
In 2004 56% of Protestant Hispanics voted republican, in 2008 when Obama had everything going for him and the republicans could not win, Protestant Hispanics still voted for McCain/Palin by 48%.
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posted on
03/16/2015 5:24:12 PM PDT
by
ansel12
(Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
To: vladimir998
LOL, so all my points were accurate.
You have a strange way of trying to misguide people and change people’s posts.
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posted on
03/16/2015 5:26:07 PM PDT
by
ansel12
(Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
To: ansel12
Ask Linda Sánchez you dummy.
To: ansel12
I’m basing it on where they live; did they deliver any states to the GOP column?
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posted on
03/16/2015 5:29:04 PM PDT
by
kearnyirish2
(Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
To: NYer
Catholics in name only have proven that the liberal sacraments of abortion, free stuuf, immorality, are more important than biblical teachings. Pelosi has claimed abortion is the most sacred part of her Catholic faith. Really? I guess I missed that part in Sunday School.
To: kearnyirish2
You aren’t giving any useful information in regards to the thread, we all already know about the overall Catholic vote, and the overall Hispanic vote, it is democrat.
Not everyone knows that when Hispanics become Protestant, that they also vote differently than the Catholic Hispanic.
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posted on
03/16/2015 5:34:03 PM PDT
by
ansel12
(Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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