Posted on 03/09/2015 11:50:27 AM PDT by Gamecock
And your proof of this is.....?
God created the universe out of nothing. If the prot god is not powerful enough to create a sinless individual the prots need a more powerful God. Try the Christian/ Catholic God
Or go with the Muslim god, since it is adored by the Catholics.
Got it: prots can't even answer not asked directly to them.
If God created Mary sinless why didn't He just do the same for everybody rather than having Christ die on the cross?
He did create Adam and Eve as sinless, you may as well ask why they chose to disobey God, but once again you are diverting the question and and not answering.
Please tell me you see the irony in your statement?
I'll give a hint. If God can create Mary any way he pleases, why would he need a special set of circumstances for Jesus?
Or put another way "What does God need with a starship?"
Apparently this jointly-adored Catholic/Muslim god is only powerful enough to create one sinless individual at any given time. This Catholic/Muslim god is quite limited in scope and resources.
Mary was not born sinless as Catholics teach.
1 Kings 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;
Galatians 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Now, how about answering my question? "If God created Mary sinless why didn't He just do the same for everybody rather than having Christ die on the cross?"
I can't even imagine putting faith in some organization that can't discern the difference between the Muslim god and the God of scripture.
He did create Adam and Eve as sinless, you may as well ask why they chose to disobey God, but once again you are diverting the question and and not answering.
I'll give a hint. If God can create Mary any way he pleases, why would he need a special set of circumstances for Jesus?
Why was the original Ark of the Covenant made to specific instructions?
I will give you a hint Mary was the Second of three Arks of the Covenant.
You are wrong, since nothing else I have posted before has changed your mind I will save my breath.
So you can’t answer my question?
If it makes your day a little brighter to believe that then go right ahead, as I said nothing I have said before.....
I’ll take that as a yes to the fact you can’t answer the question. And here I thought you hated it when people don’t answer questions. Sigh!!
2 Corinthians 5:18-21
“All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. God made him who had no sin to be a sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.”
In reading through the above passage from Paul, we might ask the question who does Paul mean when he says “us” and “we”? Apparently the Catholic Church seems to think “us” and “we” refers exclusively to the Catholic clergy. I think this is a stretch at best. Clearly the ministries of both John the Baptist and Jesus place a great deal of emphasis on repentance. We all must acknowledge our sins and ask for forgiveness. But no where in Scripture do I find one single passage which states that we must confess and ask for forgiveness exclusively to a priest.
With respects to Mary, there is nothing the Bible that I can find that discusses the circumstances surrounding her birth so I don’t bother speculating. I know some Catholics believe that Mary was ALWAYS a virgin and that she and Joseph never consummated their marriage-—another theory not supported by any facts that I am aware of. Actually I first learned that Jesus had brothers and sisters in a Bible study class taught in a CATHOLIC church by a CATHOLIC priest no less. I am grateful to this day that the priest taught the Bible as it is written and did not make up things. When we got to the passages mentioning Jesus’s brothers and sisters the priest did not try to put some sort of spin on it like-—oh they really meant to say cousins-—or here’s another whopper I’ve heard over the years-—oh they were Joseph’s children from a previous marriage. It amazes me to the extent some people will go in order to propagate a doctrine or a dogma. The Bible (Luke) mentions Mary was a virgin only up to the time of her conception of Jesus. That is it. Period. It doesn’t go any further than that. I don’t know why some people are so determined to make up yarns which simply aren’t there.
With respects to papal infallibility you mention the Great Schism of 1054-—which basically does point to the origins of this rather infantile doctrine, basically the result of a power struggle between Rome and Constantinople in which the Roman authorities were trying to establish their power and authority over the Church in the East, which of course lead to the break up between the Roman Catholic Church in the West and Orthodox Church in the East. As an aside, at around this time there was a push to introduce compulsory clerical celibacy in Western Europe, and concept which met with great resistance in the East and therefore another reason which caused a schism between the two churches. To this day Orthodox priests are permitted to be married. And always have been. Same is true with certain Catholic churches in Eastern Europe and the Middle East.
You are a modernist. :). And that while at one point it was condemned, I believe it is the default position of American Catholics. Call them cafeteria Catholics. Otoh it is a reasonable position in the face of the imperfection of men, the difficulty of discerning the truth in the face of a barrage of positions and the weight of historical practices, like devotions that take on a life of their own, divorced from their past.
I do not believe a Catholic should judge a man who moves away from the faith of his fathers with a clear conscience. That is Catholic teaching, the primacy of conscience, the sower and the seeds. God will take care of his own wherever they land.
What is important is loving Christ, this makes up for all. The internecine warring over cult is a waste of time and energy, let all search for God and find him where they may.
The qeustion was answered, perhaps you did not like it or perhaps you did not understand it, but make no mistake it has been answered countless times here and before. but If it make your day a little brighter....
Did Mary strike people dead if they touched her, too? Is that how she maintained her Perpetual Virginity?
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