From Rome to Christ

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>>As for me, although I will be accused of sola scriptura by some of my fellow Catholics, I believe the basis, the way, and the Truth, rests primarily with the word of God as it is presented in the Bible and the Gospels.<<

Exactly! Paul said anyone who teaches something they didn't should be considered accursed. The farther we get away from what Christ and the apostles taught the more likely there is for error. We see that happening already in the seven churches addressed in Revelation. Look to Christ alone. Not some earthly organization. God directly to the throne of God with your cares and concerns.

Sometimes I imagine Jesus is on an alien spaceship, on His way back to Earth after spending time on other planets that needed Him. As the Earth comes into view, the alien Commander looks at Jesus and asks, “Now, you’re sure they won’t be hostile?” And Jesus replies, “Don’t worry, everything will be fine. I stripped my teachings down to the bare bone and told them that my greatest commandment was to love one another as I love them, and to love each other as they love themselves. I’m telling you, I left them no wiggle room to screw it up. Everything will be fine.”

LOL! Sounds like you may have read some of these threads:

Jesus Drives a Flying Saucer
Sensation: Apostle Jacob’s Coffin Made by Aliens
Aliens say they prefer Peru [and Luis Antonio Soto is the third incarnation of God]
The Alien Enigma - Why we say God does travel in UFOs but is not an alien
Scientists find Extraterrestrial genes in Human DNA [did you know Jesus was an ET?]
Researchers suggest that Jesus was a descendent of Black Extraterrestrial time-travellers
Researcher illuminates Extraterrestrial influences and origins in Human DNA [ET Culture Day]

Your Government and Your Church are Lying to You:
NWO Deception: Faked Rapture and Project Blue Beam [get your tin foil hats ready]
UFOs - we were not mistaken!
An Alien Reasoning [governments and religions conspire to hide the truth about UFOs]
Ancient Gnostic disciples of Jesus reveal reasons for Extraterrestrial Denial in Western society
December 21, 2012 [Governments confess the existence of advanced extraterrestrial UFOs]
Official disclosure extraterrestrial life is imminent.(An official announcement Obama admin)
UFO climb in Lakes is out-of-this-world trip

Theology and UFOs
Could Extraterrestrial Intelligence Sway religious Beliefs?
Flying Saucers From Hell
GENETICS, UFOS AND THE BIRTH OF THE ANTICHRIST
UFO's: The Shattering Assault
UFO Messages: Are humans galactic trash? [Barf or Piñata? You decide!]
Christian Symposium Offers Different Take on Aliens at Roswell UFO Festival
UFOs - we were not mistaken!
A Dark Conspiracy of Prophecy and Alien Technology
What does the Bible say about UFO's and extraterrestrials?
More Americans Believe in the Devil, Hell and Angels than in Darwin's Theory of Evolution
Christian Symposium Offers Different Take on Aliens at Roswell UFO Festival
Film Mixes Christianity with UFOs
Flying Saucers From Hell
Behold Azazel-The Extraterrestrial [UFOs, the Bible, and Christianity]
The Upcoming Great Deception
UFO's: The Shattering Assault
UFOs in Arkansas and Across Louisiana Skies
UFOlogy, and Calvinism

Just Don't Even Ask
Worries over illegal aliens: Denver voters to decide on possible Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission
'Alien spies live among us' says Bulgarian gov space boffin
SubGenius UFO Cult Gathers In New York For Apocalypse [End of the World predicted for July 5th]
UFO CULT GATHERS IN NEW YORK FOR APOCALYPSE
New Documentary Examines NESARA Conspiracy Theory [you won't believe it, even after reading it]

You are foolish to say that. First, you do not know if those responding really are priests.

When they claim they are priests it gives me a pretty god idea...

Second, have you researched what is taught in Catholic seminaries?

Yes I have...

Among other things they recite what is called the Liturgy of the Hours. Each day they read/recite at least 12 psalms and 3 or 4 other scripture readings.

Any one can do that...That doesn't mean anything...

I’m going to buy you a Kevlar helmet and body armor SAPI plates for Christmas:)

You do, however, well interacting with your Catholic brethren. I just wish they extended the same compassion that you display.

Peace.

Good evening. I was born, raised, educated (through university) and catechized in a devout Catholic and VERY Irish family.

I thank the Catholic church and my Catholic family for teaching me the beginning of wisdom...fear (reverence) of God. No better environment to point out sin and the consequences of sin which is death. I received that message loud and clear.

My family also encouraged reading the Catholic Bible at an early age. I continued reading and praying for God’s Grace and praise His Holy Name He gave me light by His Holy Spirit and through His Holy Word.

I understand the Catholic faith quite well. The message was an insufficient grace. Not the Grace of Christ witnessed in God’s Word.

We cannot find Grace of Christ in man-made doctrines but only in His Holy Word.

Happy are the feet of those who bring Good News.

>>Eisegesis doesn’t count.<<

Worse, eisegesis with a heavy dose of Aristotle is a recipe for syncretism.

The apostles seemed to handle matters quite well. The apostle Paul seemed to think Timothy “that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.” (2 Tim 3).

So what’s missing from the Scriptures that make us incomplete?

Paul continued: “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.”

There is a figure in Scriptures who tried to convince people the Words of God were incomplete. But the hour is late and both Eden and the wilderness where Christ was tempted are miles away.

Now is this the point where I am told “but the Catholic church gave you the Bible?”

>>Either it is plagerism, or there is a rigid “how I found Jesus and learned to hate the catholic church” meme that has to be followed when writing this type of story, i.e. it is propaganda.<<

You can find a lot of similar accounts in this book. It's 28 chapters long if you are interested. You may have seen some of it in the past.

If you want another shorter explanation this one is a good example of how God works.

There are four people in Scripture who were born immaculately (not under Original Sin)... Adam, Eve, Mary and Jesus. Adam and Eve should be obvious as they had not yet committed sin before they were formed. Christ should be obvious as He was the unblemished Lamb of God. He was also the new Adam (1 Cor 15:45). Mary was the new Eve. Here is a link to a good discussion what it all means and why it is necessary: http://www.stpeterslist.com/682/6-biblical-reasons-mary-is-the-new-eve/.

Adam and Eve were not born immaculately. They were created.

If it were necessary for Mary to be born without sin because of Jesus, then it would have been necessary for Mary's mother to be born without sin. If Mary could have been born without sin of a sinful mother by an act of God, then Jesus could also.

In order for Jesus to share fully in our humanity, being born and raised by sinful parents would be part and parcel of it.

If it were necessary for Mary to be born without sin because of Jesus, then it would have been necessary for Mary's mother to be born without sin.

There have been some doctrines which conclude the sin nature is passed genetically by the man, rather than the woman alone, hence the possibility of a virgin birth of Jesus Christ from Mary and the Holy Spirit being adequate for the second Adam. I don't know if they are fully sound, but I wanted to point out it might be sound doctrine without resorting to an infinite lineage of sinless mothers to birth the second Adam.

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