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Documentary on the Shroud Airs Sunday
Catholic Lane ^ | February 28, 2015 | Patti Maguire Armstrong

Posted on 02/28/2015 3:41:21 PM PST by NYer

Shroud of Turin

All four gospels mention the burial cloth of Jesus Christ. The Shroud of Turin is believed by many to be that burial cloth. It is etched with the image of a man that was scourged, crowned with thorns, crucified, and lanced in the side. If it is real, it provides archeological evidence of the most consequential event in human history—the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Pope Francis plans to venerate the Shroud this summer, just as his predecessors, Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict did. The Pope has called for it to be displayed in Turin from April 19 to June 24 and he will view it personally on June 21. My husband Mark and I, and 6 of our 10 kids will make the trip there this spring. Thus, it was with particular interest that I previewed Examining the Shroud of Turin, the first segment of CNN’s 6-part series titled Finding Jesus: Faith, Fact, Forgery which will air this Sunday at 9 PM EST.

The documentary examines artifacts from the life of Jesus through worldwide experts in science, archeology, history and theology. The first episode asks: Is the Shroud of Turin the actual burial cloth of Jesus Christ or is it a fake?

If it is the burial cloth of Jesus, then it was Pontius Pilot who unwittingly began the journey of the Shroud as the most revered and controversial relic in history. It was he who gave Joseph of Arimathea permission to take down the body of Christ from the cross. Joseph donated his own burial cloth and tomb. He, together with Nicodemus–both prominent members of the Jewish ruling body, the Sanhedrin–took Jesus from the cross, wrapped him in linen and laid him in the tomb.

The historical records concerning the Shroud prior to the 14th century are not definite, opening its authenticity to question and leading some to call it a forgery. And so we must rely on scientific, historical, and archeological study to tell the story.

Candida Moss, Ph.D., a theology professor in New Testament and early Christianity at the University of Notre Dame was one of the consultants and commentators for the documentary. She has degrees from both Oxford and Yale and specializes in the study of relics, martyrdom, and the early Christian Church. Moss noted that evidence for the Shroud as truly the burial cloth of Jesus is very strong, but the Catholic Church has never definitively declared it so.

“When you look at Ecclesiastical statements made by the popes, they have never said the Shroud is authentic, but only that it’s worthy of veneration,” she said. “That is one of the things that the Catholic Church does well—to hold back and do their due diligence.”

The documentary explains that many who have dismissed the Shroud as a fake, point to the carbon dating in 1988. The testing dated the Shroud as coming into existence between 1260 and 1390. Scientists present those results in the film but other experts challenge that conclusion citing possible bacterial contamination of the cloth as has happened with burial shrouds from Egyptian Pharaohs. Carbon dating found them to be centuries younger than their actual known dates.

Another very powerful piece of evidence is presented: the Cloth of Oviedo. It is believed to be the cloth that was placed over the head of Jesus mentioned in the Bible. “Simon Peter, following him, also came up, went into the tomb, saw the linen cloth lying on the ground, and also the cloth that had been over his head; this was not with the linen cloth but rolled up in a place by itself” (John 20:6-7).

The history of this head covering, called the Sudarium, is well documented. It was taken from Palestine in 614 AD to Alexandria, through northern Africa and arrived in Spain in 616 AD where it remains today.

Both burial cloths have the same AB blood type. When compared to one another, the bloodstains match perfectly, showing that it came from the same man. It is noteworthy that the carbon dating on the Sudarium does not agree with that of the Shroud; showing the former as being many centuries older.

Another point against it being a forgery is the discovery that the image of the Shroud is actually a negative. The first photograph of it was taken by Secondo Pia in 1898. While looking at the negative image on the reverse photographic plate, all of a sudden he saw the positive image — he was staring at the face of Jesus! So if it was a fraud, someone would have had to think of creating the image in the negative.

“In looking at the material, I felt there was a lot more on scientific evidence that it could not be a forgery,” Moss said. “For instance, pollens were found on the cloth that came from Palestine and the placement of the nails were in the wrist.” She explained that in medieval times the crucified Christ was portrayed with nail marks in his palms, but historical and scientific research has shown that people were crucified in the wrist—the only possible way it could have held up the body. “If someone was going to make a forgery during that time, it would not have made sense to show the nail marks in the wrist.”

The most compelling evidence, according to Moss, is that despite attempts, no one has been able to recreate it. “When NASA scientists cannot make it, then who can?” she asked.

After the documentary airs, people will have the opportunity write in their questions on the CNN website and scholars will respond online. It premiers Sunday, March 1 at 9 PM EST.


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: findingjesus; medievalhoax; shroud; shroudofturin; sudariumofoviedo; turin; turinshroud; tvseries; veronicaveil
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To: NYer
Bttt.

5.56mm

101 posted on 03/02/2015 8:53:39 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Nabber
Even the Garlascelli (sp?) effort would have made for a better anti-authenticist segment that the ridiculous Allen piece. BTW my friend, my wife and I have a reservation at the Turin Cathedral on the evening of May 18th....

You can say that again. (Grin)

102 posted on 03/02/2015 9:28:16 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: MHGinTN
The common practice when seeking to diss something is to spend the first half building it up, then when the viewer feels they are watching the work of a professional who is only interested in the truth, they tear it all down and dissmiss it as ‘sadly, a hoax’. It is common to the UFO issue when any alphabet network takes up the subject. The skepticism regarding anything UFOish is proof the manipualtion works.

My distinct impression was the first 40 minutes, counting commercials, was done by completely different producer and director. The tone and shooting technique were different. When it shifted back to the piece on the Sudarium of Oviedo, the original tone and shooting technique were returned. I think that 10-15 minute segment was cut in without the knowledge of the other producer and director or without their input. Someone's idea of "balance".

103 posted on 03/02/2015 9:32:35 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: NYer

We saw the Shroud last time we were in Italy. They opened the exhibition several days before we were to fly out and we had to go. It is well documented and exhibited nicely, and it was thrilling to see it. As was the traffic in Turin!! Yikes - we drive freeways in Los Angeles with impunity, but Turin is no-holds-barred. We were laughing/ screaming/ careening with the rest of them.


104 posted on 03/02/2015 1:35:16 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: NYer

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105 posted on 03/03/2015 9:48:58 PM PST by Steve0113
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To: Iscool
Heb_11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Iscool, God works in us His salvation. We are human and He understands that we may need help to believe. Even when we do believe He can use anything He wants to increase our faith. Non of us cannot use greater faith.

The verse you quoted says "the evidence of things hoped for, which means that God gives proof for His existence and His willingness to intervene into our lives and to be our hope. The Bible is proof.

My sister has a left leaning friend whom we have loved and witnessed to for years. She has only been minimally interested in our message to her. After watching the show with the information about the shroud in it the other day, she was taken back and poured out to my sister that she never really understood the terrible, terrible suffering that Jesus took for us. She told my sister that she is often brought back in her mind to meditating on just what Jesus went through when He died for us. She is a fairly caring and tender hearted person and was completely taken back and deeply considerate over Jesus' suffering for us. This is a very good thing. We have loved, prayed for and witnessed to her for years. God used the information about the shroud to move her heart to core and to highlight how much Jesus suffered for her and loves her. Praise The LORD!!!

106 posted on 03/05/2015 7:05:17 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Joseph of Arimethea was Jesus’s uncle. As such, after Joseph died, he would have then been the patriarch of the family.

Also, In Rome at the time. only a family member could petition the governor for the body of a criminal.

He was also a wealthy man - and could afford such a fine burial cloth - and tomb.


107 posted on 04/04/2015 1:51:23 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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To: The Final Harvest

It’s on YouTube - in full

I play it every Easter and Christmas...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNJPJ4JwHeE


108 posted on 04/04/2015 1:53:31 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s been proven NOT to be ‘art work”, no pigment of any kind. - but was on a human being - and it’s human blood.

As to your “looks closer to church art than it does to what we would expect of a realistic human...”

I am a portrait artist.

I have researched and studied the Shroud image from an art angle.

The early ‘church art’ paintings are iconographic - thousands were painted to provide churches with a ‘painting’ of Jesus. There were no printing presses no cameras.

The early ‘church paintings’ were actually done by an artist or artists who had access to the Shroud. Then other artists copied those renditions. Some of the paintings depict 3 small strands of hair on his forehead - as they mistook the blood flow on the Shroud to be hair.

There are paintings of the Shroud being ceremoniously shown to the public long before the erroneous ‘carbon dating’ claim.

The Shroud came BEFORE any paintings.

the Pantocrator is one of, perhaps THE earliest ‘Jesus’ portraits. It is my favorite. I believe the artist was looking at the Shroud - the image of which would have been much darker and more discernible at the time.

http://www.touregypt.net/images/touregypt/cart05.jpg


109 posted on 04/04/2015 2:26:22 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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To: maine-iac7

Thank you for that information. It’s very interesting.


110 posted on 04/04/2015 12:30:43 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: maine-iac7

I have it saved on my DVR - which I’m going to lose in about a month. So, I’m going to enjoy it .. and share it with my sister in a couple of weeks.

Is this one called “The Face of Jesus” ..??


111 posted on 04/04/2015 2:43:10 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("The hour has arrived to gather the Harvest")
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To: Swordmaker

Go to YouTube and look for “The Face of Jesus”.

It’s not like anything I’ve ever seen. When it comes to the final scene, and they reveal the finished work taken from the Shroud; I put it on pause because I gasped at the sight of my Savior’s face.

Check with the History Channel.


112 posted on 04/04/2015 2:53:37 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("The hour has arrived to gather the Harvest")
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To: The Final Harvest

yes


113 posted on 04/04/2015 3:26:13 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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