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1 posted on 02/25/2015 12:21:12 AM PST by walkinginthedesert
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“IC XC”

2 posted on 02/25/2015 12:26:29 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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No, we don’t become our own salvation. I’ve been to all kinds of churches, including quite a few Pentecostal ones, and have never heard that in any one of them. Naming a simple uplifting of hands and assuming that holding hands is some sort of rejection of salvation as coming from God, what’s next in the minutiae of ritualism?


3 posted on 02/25/2015 12:50:32 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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The Novus Ordo liturgy and other changes inspired by Vatican II are demonic in origin.


4 posted on 02/25/2015 1:05:04 AM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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Hand gestures at Mass

I was in the Communion line at a very hoity-toity Latin Mass once when a guy in front of me reaches out his hand and whacks they kid in front of him because he didn't apppend himself to the far end of the kneeling line...

5 posted on 02/25/2015 1:06:24 AM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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the act of holding hands during the Our Father

Idiotic and stupid. Stay away from me.

6 posted on 02/25/2015 1:07:50 AM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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Both practices are symptomatic of the highly feminized Mass of the Novus Order Missal. Does anybody wonder at the shortage of priests?


10 posted on 02/25/2015 4:43:50 AM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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(Most specifically Pentecostalism where the horizontal dimension of community is emphasized and thus we become our own salvation.

Outright lie.

IF the author wants to talk about Catholic rituals, and the way they should properly be performed that is all well and good. But he should not be running down other Christian forms of worship.

Pentecostals believe there is no salvation apart from the atoning sacrifice of Christ on the cross. Nothing we do can ever make us perfect enough to attain heaven. Only Jesus can give it to us.

14 posted on 02/25/2015 5:21:32 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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Once again: hand gestures = tip of the iceberg


17 posted on 02/25/2015 6:25:04 AM PST by piusv
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When I was cleaning out my father's house a few summers ago, I picked out a pocket-sized Sunday Missal published by the Confraternity of the Precious Blood, Fr. Stedman, Director. These little missals were given to all the servicemen in WWII, and they are gems. The catechesis contained in these missals is incredible!

Which got me to thinking: Why isn't this being done today in the front of the seasonal missals found in every church? IMO, these people are holding hands during the Our Father, raiding them at the Doxology, and mimicking the orans Because they just don't know any better. (Sad to say, neither do a lot of priests, but that's another story.)

18 posted on 02/25/2015 7:27:26 AM PST by eastsider
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**Many Catholics might not know that the use of the Orans position at Mass is solely to be used by the priest alone. The main reason is that the use of the Orans position during Mass is exclusively a priestly gesture. The Rubrics for the Mass only give the priest the sole authority of praying with elevated hands (Orans Position). Neither the deacon nor the Catholic laity are given this liturgical role since it is once again a priestly gesture.**

Truth.


19 posted on 02/25/2015 7:40:49 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Good of you to put this up to remind (or school) people. Many parishioners do not receive this direction from their priests, so they just don’t know any better. At one of the daily Mass parishes we go to, some of the fifty of so people who regularly attend actually move out of their pews to gather with all the others to hold hands. Reminds me of a children’s game. Some people are even turned sideways (to the altar), etc.


20 posted on 02/25/2015 9:05:12 AM PST by mlizzy ("Tell your troubles to Jesus," my wisecracking father used to say, and now I do.......at adoration.)
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