Prots as myself are born again children of God.........
What you or I believe about who is a Christian counts for nothing, the Apostle Paul laid out one proof which true Christians have followed for 2,000 years in 1 Corinthians 10:17. The Gnostics in the time of St Ignatius refused to partake of the Eucharist and therefore by their actions proved themselves to be outside the Apostolic Faith and the Church of Christ. Sadly, many so called self proclaimed born again people also refuse to share the Eucharist, therefore showing themselves to be outside the Apostolic Faith and violating John 17 and 1 Corinthians 1. Of course Jesus said the unity of his true disciples was essential to show the world He was sent from the Father.
So I applaud the intellectual honesty of these baptists who attack the Coptic martyrs as pagans.......they are holding a mirror to many on this board who daily attack anyone who holds the historical, orthodox Christian Faith, as opposed to the 16th century tradition of men.
The Christian Faith is almost 2,000 years old, not 500 years old. Paying lip service to Faith in Christ is cheap, by ones actions we can see where their true heart is and who is their real father. Satan loves nothing more than when the historical, orthodox Christian Faith is attacked and many on this board are happy to oblige him daily, utterly deceived that they are doing Satan’s bidding.
By their fruits you will know them..........
So I applaud the intellectual honesty of these baptists who attack the Coptic martyrs as pagans.
So why can't you be as those you call intellectual honest and just admit you believe all Prots are lost who reject the so-called Cath. "Real; Presence" rather than simply inferring that, so we will clearly see that you deny Lumen Gentium, or demonstrate how open to interpretation RC teaching can be.
and violating John 17 and 1 Corinthians 1.
John 17 and 1 Corinthians 1? Far from manifesting being one as Christ is one with the Father, (Jn. 17:21) and being "perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment," (1Co. 1:10) any doctrinal unity in Rome is very limited and largely on paper, while what one does and effects is what constitutes the evidence of what one really believes. (Ja. 2:18; Mt. 7:20)
And Catholicism exists in schisms and sects, formal or informal, you yourself being in one of them, and those Rome counts and treats as members in her visible church in life in death abundantly disagree with her (as she does with herself ) and each other.
And which you must own and accept as brethren, as Rome does, and cannot formally separate from as Scripture requires, and we can.
Moreover, it is incontrovertible that Caths are fare less conservative and unified in core values and beliefs than evangelicals .
Satan loves nothing more than when the historical, orthodox Christian Faith is attacked...
Oh spare us the typical bombast. The so-called historical, orthodox Christian Faith of Catholicism stands in critical contrast to that of the NT church , and cannot be established upon Scriptural substantiation, by which it has been refuted so often here, though you are welcome to provide another opportunity to do so again.
But which attempts end up betraying the fact that Scriptural substantiation is not the basis for the veracity of RC teaching, else their basis for Truth would be as that of evangelicals.
Thus your recourse to the mantra about the historical, orthodox Christian Faith, as the basis for your assurance of Truth is that of the presumed veracity of Rome.
That is what RCs should admit, instead of trying to present themselves as evangelicals in attempting to support traditions of men with Scripture.
In addition, even Catholic scholarship provides testimony against the "historical" propaganda they delude themselves into believing .
Indeed it is.the mistake Catholics make is they believe that Rome was the original NT church..but not so n the NT you will not find the "mass" a priesthood, the apostles preforming 7 sacraments, no statues, no holy water, no prayer to the dead.. and no pope..