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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; metmom; RnMomof7; Gamecock; Alex Murphy
The Gnostics in the time of St Ignatius refused to partake of the Eucharist and therefore by their actions proved themselves to be outside the Apostolic Faith and the Church of Christ. Sadly, many so called self proclaimed born again people also refuse to share the Eucharist, therefore showing themselves to be outside the Apostolic Faith and violating John 17 and 1 Corinthians 1.

So I applaud the intellectual honesty of these baptists who attack the Coptic martyrs as pagans.

So why can't you be as those you call intellectual honest and just admit you believe all Prots are lost who reject the so-called Cath. "Real; Presence" rather than simply inferring that, so we will clearly see that you deny Lumen Gentium, or demonstrate how open to interpretation RC teaching can be.

and violating John 17 and 1 Corinthians 1.

John 17 and 1 Corinthians 1? Far from manifesting being one as Christ is one with the Father, (Jn. 17:21) and being "perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment," (1Co. 1:10) any doctrinal unity in Rome is very limited and largely on paper, while what one does and effects is what constitutes the evidence of what one really believes. (Ja. 2:18; Mt. 7:20)

And Catholicism exists in schisms and sects, formal or informal, you yourself being in one of them, and those Rome counts and treats as members in her visible church in life in death abundantly disagree with her (as she does with herself ) and each other.

And which you must own and accept as brethren, as Rome does, and cannot formally separate from as Scripture requires, and we can.

Moreover, it is incontrovertible that Caths are fare less conservative and unified in core values and beliefs than evangelicals .

Satan loves nothing more than when the historical, orthodox Christian Faith is attacked...

Oh spare us the typical bombast. The so-called historical, orthodox Christian Faith of Catholicism stands in critical contrast to that of the NT church , and cannot be established upon Scriptural substantiation, by which it has been refuted so often here, though you are welcome to provide another opportunity to do so again.

But which attempts end up betraying the fact that Scriptural substantiation is not the basis for the veracity of RC teaching, else their basis for Truth would be as that of evangelicals.

Thus your recourse to the mantra about the historical, orthodox Christian Faith, as the basis for your assurance of Truth is that of the presumed veracity of Rome.

That is what RCs should admit, instead of trying to present themselves as evangelicals in attempting to support traditions of men with Scripture.

In addition, even Catholic scholarship provides testimony against the "historical" propaganda they delude themselves into believing .

48 posted on 02/19/2015 8:23:38 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

Thanks dan. Good work as usual.


50 posted on 02/19/2015 8:47:44 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: daniel1212

it’s not my place to say anyone is lost.

we can say what Paul said to Titus about those who opposed the Apostolic Faith in his day:

1:16
they profess to know God, but they deny Him by their deeds; they are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good deed.

in other words, with their mouths they claim to know Jesus and believe in Him, but their deeds of attacking Him by attacking the historical orthodox Universal Church prove they don’t know Him at all and in fact are just doing the work of their true father....

these Baptists are a very good example of this, but one only has to read the FR religion forum daily to find their fellow travelers.


53 posted on 02/20/2015 8:13:43 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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