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Did Jesus Preach the Gospel of Evangelicalism?
Desiring God ^ | April 14, 2010 | John Piper

Posted on 02/16/2015 8:55:26 AM PST by redleghunter

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Every verse of all four Gospels is meant by the authors to be read in the shadow of the cross. When we start reading one of the Gospels, we already know how it ends—the death and resurrection of Jesus as a substitute for our sins (Mark 10:45; Matthew 26:28)—and we should have that ending in mind with every verse that we read. And this is exactly what each of the Gospels intends.
1 posted on 02/16/2015 8:55:26 AM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter
Prayers for The Religion Forum (Ecumenical)
2 posted on 02/16/2015 8:56:54 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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PING.

Every verse of all four Gospels is meant by the authors to be read in the shadow of the cross. When we start reading one of the Gospels, we already know how it ends—the death and resurrection of Jesus as a substitute for our sins (Mark 10:45; Matthew 26:28)—and we should have that ending in mind with every verse that we read. And this is exactly what each of the Gospels intends. John Piper

3 posted on 02/16/2015 8:57:38 AM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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To: Salvation

Thank you!


4 posted on 02/16/2015 9:00:37 AM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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I love the example of Abraham being justified by faith. It was not the works that saved him, but his faith. And the faith is what allowed the works.

I like to say that you can tell how much faith someone has in their brakes by how fast they drive.

Faith enables works. Works are proof of faith. Works don’t save. Faith saves. Faith is everything.


5 posted on 02/16/2015 9:02:55 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: redleghunter
Did Jesus Preach the Gospel of Evangelicalism?

What an unnecessary, convoluted pretzel of a question.

It reminds me of these programs on A&E Network, where atheists posing as Christians ask questions like these:

"Well, did Jesus REALLY rise from the dead? The truth is we don't know."

"Did Jesus say anything against Homosexuality? Well, it is not in the Gospels anywhere. I think Jesus would have accepted Same Sex couples."

"Was Jesus married? I believe evidence points to the answer in the affirmative."

Nothing but garbage.

6 posted on 02/16/2015 9:03:21 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: GarySpFc

PING


7 posted on 02/16/2015 9:04:12 AM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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To: RnMomof7

Ping. Sorry for the delay in pinging you.


8 posted on 02/16/2015 9:05:08 AM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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To: SkyPilot

I am sorry I read this. Now I feel like I need a bath.


9 posted on 02/16/2015 9:08:26 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: redleghunter

Not only did is Paul’s theology the same as Jesus’ theology but I’ve always been amazed that Paul wrote “Romans” having never read the book of John. The two are rock solid tight with regard to the Gospel preached. Luther himself noted that if none of the NT survived the ages but the books of “John” and “Romans” we would still have everything necessary for the complete theology of Jesus and Christianity.


10 posted on 02/16/2015 9:14:09 AM PST by circlecity
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To: SkyPilot

I would rather that the following be asked of John Piper:

Define the agreed-to and defined “Gospel of Evangelicalism”. Where is it found and how is it defined.

Me thinks that John Piper might be adding to Scripture.


11 posted on 02/16/2015 9:14:32 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: redleghunter

“I am the Way and the Truth and the Life.
Nobody comes to the Father but by Me.”

I don’t know how much clearer anyone can make it.

Our problem is that people say to themselves, “That can’t be right. That’s just too easy.”

Salvation and justification are a gift. As a gift, you cannot earn them or they cease being a gift. Too many want to force people to work at earning the gift either by tithing, a rigid lifestyle or other works.

Jesus made it ridiculously simple. We complicate it by putting all these extra demands on them. The works that we should do are a *thankful response* to what Christ has done for us, not demands that all must do.

The truth is, we want to satisfy our egos by making our little club as exclusive as possible when Jesus calls us to do just the opposite. Paul had it more right than we know and his thoughts were so backwards from the mindset or fleshly and sinful man as to validate that they were divinely inspired.


12 posted on 02/16/2015 9:15:05 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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To: redleghunter

>> ... in our default to Pauline categories we are selling Jesus short

There’s nothing wrong with the analysis (or conclusion) of the author. But pitting Paul against Jesus is a slippery slope that invites an “either/or” conclusion, the inevitable result of which is tearing pages out of one’s Bible.

Jesus vs. Paul is one of the tools with which the Evil One perverts sound Christian doctrine.


13 posted on 02/16/2015 9:16:59 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: redleghunter

Dude, do you feel guilty that you have not provided the Church anough converts? Do you worry about whether your efforts in the name of Jesus the Christ are ineffective and not having the evangelical effort Scripture describes? Are your neighbors rejecting your exposition of the Gospel?

How do know?


14 posted on 02/16/2015 9:17:26 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: redleghunter

I love Piper ..thanks


15 posted on 02/16/2015 9:18:08 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: cuban leaf

I love your statement that faith enables works and are proof of faith. Thus a person who receives Christ and dies one moment later, without the opportunity to do any good work, is saved. A person who receives Christ and lives many years in sin and pride will not be saved.


16 posted on 02/16/2015 9:31:44 AM PST by rcofdayton (.)
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To: RnMomof7

Short answer to question.

“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”


17 posted on 02/16/2015 9:32:23 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: SkyPilot

It’s actually a good piece. Please read it. Piper is addressing many of the convoluted assumptions going around the internet.


18 posted on 02/16/2015 9:33:57 AM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

When I read the sermon I came away with the notion Piper addresses the ‘red letter only’ theology. It is very present on the internet.


19 posted on 02/16/2015 9:36:11 AM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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To: Nervous Tick
Jesus vs. Paul is one of the tools with which the Evil One perverts sound Christian doctrine.

I believe that is what Piper addressed. He is not making the proposition, but addressing it.

20 posted on 02/16/2015 9:38:50 AM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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