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To: af_vet_1981; AppyPappy; Alex Murphy
""he revealed in an interview with Mark Driscoll in 2012 that he affirms the Trinity""

Meh, not impressed.

Check out their "Belief Statement:" There is one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect, and eternally existing in three manifestations: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Source.

When you start using terms like "manifestation" you are teetering on, or already in, the modalist camp. I may be wrong.

53 posted on 02/12/2015 10:23:56 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval line officer.)
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To: Gamecock
Check out their "Belief Statement:" There is one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect, and eternally existing in three manifestations: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Source.

When you start using terms like "manifestation" you are teetering on, or already in, the modalist camp. I may be wrong.

Still waiting for the Protestant/Evangelical Union to declare Pentecostalism a cult ...

55 posted on 02/12/2015 11:17:11 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Gamecock

**When you start using terms like “manifestation” you are teetering on, or already in, the modalist camp. I may be wrong.**

“...God was manifest IN the flesh...”. 1Tim. 3:16

Also, “God was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto himself,..” 2Cor. 5:19.

‘IN’, is a word overlooked by those trying to define God as ‘three separate and distinct, co-equal, persons of God’.

God is invisible. To say that the image is God, separate and distinct from God the Father, is saying that God is NOT invisible. Jesus Christ, John, and Paul all say that God is invisible. I believe them. It is the invisible power within Jesus Christ that is God.

In the scriptures, when people worshipped Jesus Christ in his presense, they were quite proper in doing so, for he is the image of the ‘invisible God’ (Col. 1:15). God is IN that ‘tabernacle’.

I’ve heard the ‘three manifestations’ definition many times, and have told fellow oneness believers to just quote scriptures like 1Tim. 3:16, 2Cor. 5:19, Col. 1:15. John 14:10, 15:26, 17:3, and others, to define God. Define God as HE defines himself.

The effort to define God in just a few words is somewhat of a tall task. Jesus Christ talks a great deal when defining God; his words on the subject probably taking up a least a half dozen chapters of the book of John alone.


75 posted on 02/12/2015 6:55:56 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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