Posted on 01/29/2015 6:06:09 PM PST by ebb tide
The lead organizer of the Vaticans Synod on the Family has revealed that Pope Francis approved the controversial mid-term report from the meeting before it was published. Until now, Pope Francis role in the documents publication has been left to conjecture.
The Relatio post disceptationem, as it is called, was intended as a provisional summary of the debate from the Synods first week. But after it was released it was strongly criticized by numerous Synod fathers, including Cardinals Raymond Burke, Gerhard Muller, George Pell, and Wilfrid Napier, some publicly and some behind meeting doors. Some critics have even described it as the worst official document in the history of the Church.
Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri, secretary general of the Synod of Bishops, spoke about the popes role regarding the Synod documents in an interview with Aleteia at a Pontifical Council for the Family conference last week.
The documents were all seen and approved by the Pope, with the approval of his presence, Baldisseri said. Even the documents during the [Extraordinary] Synod, such as the Relatio ante disceptatationem [the preliminary report], the Relatio post disceptationem [interim report], and the Relatio synodi [final report] were seen by him before they were published.
This point is important not only because of his authority, but also it puts the Secretary General at ease, the cardinal added - "wryly," according to Aleteia.
In its most controversial sections, the Relatio post disceptationem, or report after the debate, asked whether accepting and valuing [homosexuals] sexual orientation could align with Catholic doctrine; proposed allowing Communion for divorced-and-remarried Catholics on a case-by-case basis; and said pastors should emphasize the positive aspects of lifestyles the Church considers gravely sinful, including civil remarriage after divorce and premarital cohabitation.
Its most controversial provisions were left out of the Synods final report, the Relatio synodi, but many critics have called on the Vatican nevertheless to rescind the interim document.
Cardinal Baldisseri also confirmed that the pope ordered that several controversial sections in the proposed Relatio synodi, or final report, be included in the published version even though they failed to get the necessary two-thirds vote from the Synod fathers.
It was the Popes decision to include the points that did not receive the two-thirds majority, he said.
The Pope said: These three points received an absolute majority. They were therefore not rejected with a no, as they received more than 50 percent approval. They are therefore issues that still need to be developed. We as a Church want a consensus. These texts can be modified, thats clear. Once there has been further reflection, they can be modified.
These sections were re-published as part of the Lineamenta, without a note that they were rejected, that was sent out to the worlds bishops for discussion in preparation for the next Synod in October 2015.
Aleteias Diane Montagna writes that these latter comments from Baldisseri came in response to a question from a representative of a Venezuelan-based family organization, who asked for anonymity. This man expressed the shock and concern that has been the response of many Catholics around the world, particularly those involved in the struggle to defend life and family.
Baldisseri said, however, that the shock was misplaced. We shouldnt be shocked that there is a different position from the common doctrine, he said.
He assured the 300 conference attendees that theres no reason to be scandalized that there is a cardinal or a theologian saying something thats different than the so-called common doctrine. This doesnt imply a going against. It means reflecting. Because dogma has its own evolution; that is a development, not a change.
Montagna told LifeSiteNews.com that she had wanted to be fair to the cardinal, so she made a recording of all his comments to ensure that she could reproduce the quotes correctly.
She writes, The Cardinal also informed us that the 46 questions published in the Lineamenta were the work of both the General Secretariat and the 15 members of the Council of the Secretariat. Responses are due April 15th.
Baldisseris comments confirm the claim by another of the Churchs highest ranking prelates, Cardinal Reinhardt Marx, a member of the popes private council of nine cardinals, and the head of the German bishops conference. Marx said that it was Pope Francis who had pushed the door open on these topics.
Up to now, these two issues have been absolutely non-negotiable. Although they had failed to get the two-thirds majority, the majority of the synod fathers had nevertheless voted in their favor, he told Die Ziet.
They are still part of the text, Marx said. I especially asked the pope about that, and the pope said he wanted all the points published together with all the voting results. He wanted everyone in the church to see where we stood.
What some have argued is the Synods apparent program of easing the Churchs opposition to adultery, homosexuality, and other sexual sins has prompted some prelates to identify it as one of the great crisis points of Church history. Bishop Athanasius Schneider, who did not attend the Synod but said he had reflected deeply on the proceedings, said that it is a sign that the Church is entering a period comparable to that of its tumultuous early centuries.
We are living in an un-Christian society, in a new paganism, Schneider told an interviewer after the Synod closed.
The temptation today for the clergy is to adapt to the new world to the new paganism, to be collaborationists. We are in a similar situation to the first centuries, when the majority of the society was pagan, and Christianity was discriminated against.
He continued, Unfortunately there were in the first century members of the clergy and even bishops who put grains of incense in front of the statue of the Emperor or of a pagan idol or who delivered the books of the Holy Scripture to be burned.
In our times, he said, clergy and bishops are not being asked to pinch incense to the emperor, but to collaborate with the pagan world today in this dissolution of the Sixth Commandment and in the revision of the way God created man and woman. These clergy, he said, would be traitors of the Faith; they are participating ultimately in pagan sacrifice.
We are living in an un-Christian society, in a new paganism, Schneider told an interviewer after the Synod closed.
The temptation today for the clergy is to adapt to the new world to the new paganism, to be collaborationists. We are in a similar situation to the first centuries, when the majority of the society was pagan, and Christianity was discriminated against.
Ping
Up to now, these two issues have been absolutely non-negotiable. Although they had failed to get the two-thirds majority, the majority of the synod fathers had nevertheless voted in their favor, he told Die Ziet.
They are still non-negotiable.
And to think that most of the Bishops voted against all the nonsense in it.
Francis, however, apparently disagrees.
The “remnant few” is becoming fewer.
Actually, the plural majority of bishops did vote for the nonsense.
“premarital cohabitation” is gravely sinful, but homosexual premarital cohabitation is perfectly fine.
Makes sense to me
Sneaky behavior typical of a shameless modernist.
I can hear the surge in SSPX membership already!
He’ll go down as the worst pope in the last 1,000 years.
Nonsense. I’m willing to bet the next Modernist “pope” canonizes him.
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