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Mormons on LGBT rights called naive, unhelpful
Baptist Press ^ | January 28, 2015 | Tom Strode

Posted on 01/28/2015 2:48:24 PM PST by Graybeard58

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The Mormons' announcement could be an attempt to aid Mitt Romney in a 2016 presidential campaign

[T]here's no other reason for them to be doing this at this point in time, unless it is to help Romney."

There you have it.

1 posted on 01/28/2015 2:48:24 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Colofornian; greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; Elsie

Ping to the real reason Mormons are sucking up to the homos (pun intended).


2 posted on 01/28/2015 2:51:06 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.)
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To: Graybeard58

Our first mistake is to assume that they are Christians. Everything else follows from that. They’re 19th Century Scientologists with a veneer of respectability due to their “born-on” date, the choir and the short memory of the public.


3 posted on 01/28/2015 2:55:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Graybeard58

I would add forced tithing.
Homosexuals as a group have the largest disposable income.


4 posted on 01/28/2015 2:57:00 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Graybeard58
Unhelpful to LGBT rights? That's disgusting!
5 posted on 01/28/2015 3:01:32 PM PST by golux
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Our first mistake is to assume that they are Christians"

But their signs say JESUS CHRIST in the biggest letters so they HAVE to be Christian right??!!!


6 posted on 01/28/2015 3:12:11 PM PST by freedomlover
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To: golux

Read the sentence again


7 posted on 01/28/2015 3:13:37 PM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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To: Graybeard58; ansel12; All
The Mormons' announcement could be an attempt to aid Mitt Romney in a 2016 presidential campaign [T]here's no other reason for them to be doing this at this point in time, unless it is to help Romney." There you have it.

Well, I think the Mormon Church has multiple motives at play; the Romney angle is one...and could be #1.

Just two months ago, the Mormon Church released an "essay" on Joseph Smith's polygamy, acknowledging that he may have had up to 40 wives...that a significant percentage of these wives were already wives to other men & remained married to two men simultaneously...and that Smith married a 14 yo and several other young teens.

Think about the timing of all of this:

2nd week of November: essay on Smith polygamous unions released
Less than 2 months later, Romney "seriousfies" 2016 POTUS intentions...

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Other potential secondary factors at play?

Now that the state of Utah has said it's not enforcing prosecution vs. polygamists, the Mormon leaders...who have LONG provided hidden cover to polygamists well after 1890...realize that if they're going to quietly sanction one alternative "sexual orientation"...polygamy...then all is "fair" in lust & war across the board!

This is all rooted in the Lds general authority knee-jerk reaction to the crit the church unfairly rec'd after supporting onemanonewoman marriage in 2008.

I guess they realized how political posturing in the name of "we're not polygamists anymore" made them a cultural target & effected their "comfort zone."

But then...
...(1) the media started running "Big LOVE" polygamous "reality" shows to get the culture to soften up on it...
...(2a) it's been cited on FR DOZENS of times since 2008's Prop 8 backing how Lds "apostles" (like Bruce McConkie) taught that polygamy would be reinstituted on earth when the Mormon Jesus returned...
...(2b) and how their teaching that marriage is eternal means ALL kinds of Mormons from EVERY century would then become eternal polygamists...
...THEREFORE, I think the Mormon Church has realized that since it's untenable for them to run away from their sanctioning of polygamy on the sly that they might as well carve a way to get EVERYBODY to accept EVERY "sexual orientation" under the sun...if not morally, then in every other way.

8 posted on 01/28/2015 3:21:50 PM PST by Colofornian
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Mohler has spoken at Brigham Young University — a Mormon school in Provo, Utah — on two occasions, making clear both times “there is a great theological chasm between biblical Christianity and the LDS church,”
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Oh noez..

an evil anti-Mormon..

a secret FI...

:)


9 posted on 01/28/2015 3:30:00 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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The Mormons’ announcement could be an attempt to aid Mitt Romney in a 2016 presidential campaign,
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Ah yeppers..

after all Willard is the father of homosexual marriage and has publically called for “gay rights” including homosexual boy scout leaders, as early as 1994..

got to cover the butt of the golden headed boy ...


10 posted on 01/28/2015 3:33:37 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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Ping to the real reason Mormons are sucking up to the homos (pun intended).

Inman ping.

11 posted on 01/28/2015 3:34:20 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Valerie Jarrett warned us they would "get even with those who opposed them"..)
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To: Graybeard58

I said essentially the same thing yesterday.

The mormons are pandering in hopes that the lgbt crowd will leave them alone...

As evidenced by another thread on FR posted earlier today, it didn’t take long for their hopes to be dashed by the lgbt crowd.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3251525/posts

If it’s an attempt to help Romney, well then, I can’t explain stupid.


12 posted on 01/28/2015 3:44:27 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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(I did also think of yet another secondary reason for all of this...namely that since the Boy Scouts serves as a replacement youth program for boys in the church...and with the Boy Scouts now changing their own "sexual orientation" policies, in order for LDS to continue its long-standing Boy Scout affiliation, they needed to address it from that angle as well...it's like one big convergeance)

Convergeance of Reasons Behind Mormon Church Push for Homosexual Rights

* Romney 2016 run: Providing 'cover' for his pro-homosexual policies
* Boy Scouts' sexual orientation policies & need to align with them
* Lds general authorities almost ALL businessmen & retired businessmen who filter things thru "public relations" & "marketing" eyes
* Lds' own roots of promoting alternative "sexual orientation" lifestyles -- and finally beginning to "come clean" about how wild that actually was...so this is seen as being less "hypocritical" on their leaders' part...
* Internet world unveiling how Lds believe they are actually practicing "eternal polygamy" (men marrying women in serial fashion in temple marriages + historic polygamists supposedly living as such on other planets)...so if Mormons can embrace distinctive "sexual orientations," they realize, "Who are we to comment negatively on ANY alternative sexual orientation?"
* Internet world unveiling how some Lds general authorities (McConkie) taught that polygamy will be reinstituted on planet when Mormon jesus returns...so this is an extension of last reason given above...

13 posted on 01/28/2015 4:01:11 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey Just because we believe that Jesus Christ is the literal Son of the All Mighty God the Father .....

...instead of your Nicene version of Jesus being the second person of a god with a three-way multiple personality/identity crisis....

Doesn’t mean were not Christian.

Plus ..... I don’t recall Jesus ever making you the judge of who acceptably worships him!

...what I do recall is Christ saying “judge not that YE BE NOT JUDGED”

...so according to Christ’s words....your harsh judgement damns you not me as an LDS member!


14 posted on 01/28/2015 4:03:06 PM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: teppe

I am a former Catholic and I never heard the Trinity described in that manner. Nice way to insult other FReepers.


15 posted on 01/28/2015 4:08:11 PM PST by darkangel82
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I’m sure L. Ron Hubbard would say something similar, were he here today.


16 posted on 01/28/2015 4:18:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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Your bitheist/polytheist "church" officially permits abortion (he Church Handbook of Instructions, 17.3.1 ~~ http://www.scribd.com/doc/99798549/LDS-Church-Handbook-of-Instructions-Vol-1-2010-pdf#scribd, page 163).

That alone disqualifies it from being considered Christian.

17 posted on 01/28/2015 4:37:10 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: teppe
Hey Just because we believe that Jesus Christ is the literal Son of the All Mighty God the Father .....

...instead of your Nicene version of Jesus being the second person of a god with a three-way multiple personality/identity crisis....

Doesn’t mean were not Christian.

Oh Lordy!! Millions of Christians across the world for centuries had it all Wrong!!!!

We just needed a Peep Stone Prophet with a Pecker Problem, who banged anything that bent over, to fable up us a new testament, so we can all ignore the True Gospel, and ride our way to hell with celestial babies popping out like a pez dispenser...

Thank You, Teppe!!! Planets and Magic Undies for everyone!!!!!

Be sure to have your tithes in by Friday!!!!

18 posted on 01/28/2015 4:54:30 PM PST by dragonblustar
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Hey Just because we believe that Jesus Christ is the literal Son of the All Mighty God the Father .....
...instead of your Nicene version of Jesus being the second person of a god with a three-way multiple personality/identity crisis....

Doesn’t mean were not Christian.

Well, yes, if you pervert the nature of God, denying His eternal deity and make Him into a created being, you have an idol you call "Jesus".

Finally, we do not base Christ's eternal nature and deity and preexistence on the Nicene Creed. We base it on God's revelation about His Son.

19 posted on 01/28/2015 5:00:57 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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Millions of Christians across the world for centuries had it all Wrong!!!! We just needed a Peep Stone Prophet with a Pecker Problem, who banged anything that bent over, to fable up us a new testament, so we can all ignore the True Gospel, and ride our way to hell with celestial babies popping out like a pez dispenser...Thank You, Teppe!!! Planets and Magic Undies for everyone!!!!! Be sure to have your tithes in by Friday!!!!

LOL

All you need now is a few illustrators, a web & more Christian-based version of Charlie Hebdo, & you're in business!

The Mormon church, with its storied history & laugh-worthy doctrinal beliefs, basically invites itself to be lampooned.

20 posted on 01/28/2015 5:23:32 PM PST by Colofornian
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