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1 posted on 01/25/2015 3:13:56 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Aborted babies do not make contributions to the Church. Parents and Grandparents of knocked up teens do. The Church just wants everyone to feel good about themselves. Doing otherwise might cut off the flow of cash.


2 posted on 01/25/2015 3:21:00 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Morgana

all in “good “ “fun”////

depending upon ones perspective or lack of any...


3 posted on 01/25/2015 3:25:10 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Morgana
Bill Mefford, Director of Civil and Human Rights at the UMC’s Washington office

Washington DC is the center of the Empire. Just like Rome, politics, the state and money corrupt nearly everyone there - even so-called Christian churches

4 posted on 01/25/2015 3:27:36 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Morgana

Mefford had one job. One job, and he screwed it up. Crowe had one job. One job, and she screwed it up.


5 posted on 01/25/2015 3:27:43 PM PST by healy61
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To: Morgana
When you okay the killing of babies your heart turns to stone.

I could argue that high school mean girls got that way after girls switched to playing with Barbie and dumped their baby dolls.

And, Directors of Civil and Human Rights became insensitive to dead baby jokes while they ate their lunch.

6 posted on 01/25/2015 3:29:45 PM PST by donna
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To: Morgana

He does NOT speak for the church. The United Methodist Church does have liberals under its large umbrella. But, I am part of a clergy only UMC group which has roundly criticized his comments by both liberals & conservatives. The General Board of Church & Society [is typically more liberal] but issued this statement:

“Cultivating a Culture of Respect

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - January 23, 2015

The General Board of Church and Society (GBCS) welcomed LifeWatch into The United Methodist Building prior to the Right to Life March. Rev. Paul Stallsworth serves as the President. I participated in a meaningful service of worship. I appreciate the convictions and public witness of our brothers and sisters.

Affirming human dignity is central to the witness of Jesus Christ. Christians are called to watch over with care the lives of all persons and creation. We must strive to lead by example through our words and actions. We seek Christian compassion when we fall short in our actions with one another.

A recent action involving a staff member of GBCS did not reflect our culture of respect, openness and hospitality. Appropriate conversations and action have been taken. We at GBCS recognize the special responsibility we have to cultivate respect, trust and hospitality among those who hold a variety of opinions on social issues.

One of the marks of United Methodism is a spirit of openness and dialogue. We seek to continually encourage open dialogue through hospitality and respect. These are principles that we intend and foster with all persons who seek to live out their Christian faith and convictions through social action.

“We commit ourselves to stand united in declaring our faith that God’s grace is available to all, that nothing can separate us from the love of God. In that confidence, we pledge to continue to be in respectful dialogue with those with whom we disagree, to explore the sources of our differences, to honor the sacred worth of all persons, and to tell the truth about our divisions as we continue to seek the mind of Christ and to do the will of God in all things.”
Preamble Social Principles of The United Methodist Church


7 posted on 01/25/2015 3:29:52 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Morgana

I remember being mocked years ago for telling people the left was invading all the major christian denominations.


8 posted on 01/25/2015 3:30:03 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Morgana

The UMC response is pure BS. I sat in Annual Conference in June 2013 and watched in disgust as a Methodist pastor stood up to argue against a resolution to merely suggest an ultrasound prior to an abortion where he said, “No one really knows when life begins, so...”

He received a thunderous applause from the majority of the delegates at the conference.

They showed me that cannot be simultaneously be Progressive and Christian, which we already knew from Matthew 6:24. Yes, I know that 6:24 specifically mentions money as the second master, but look at the Progressive agenda: wealth redistribution, use of taxation policies to change behavior, abortion as a tool to keep women from the financial burden of having babies, wealth envy, accusations of everyone else being greedy by people who always have their hands in other people’s cookie jars, etc.


9 posted on 01/25/2015 3:30:06 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Morgana

Bill Mefford, you damn hypocrite, GO POUND SAND!


10 posted on 01/25/2015 3:33:16 PM PST by miserare ("Reverence for life--life of all kinds--is the first principle of civilization." ~~Schweitzer)
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To: Morgana
Bill Mefford, Director of Civil and Human Rights at the UMC’s Washington office, used the March for Life last week to mock the event with a sign,

I think I read somewhere, something to the effect that God will not be mocked. If you think you can then have at it but I would not want to be you when you stand before the judgement seat of Christ.

16 posted on 01/25/2015 3:41:22 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: Morgana

The UMC & Presbyterian Church (World Council of Churches) sold their souls to satan way back.


20 posted on 01/25/2015 3:48:42 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Morgana

A female hyphenated reverend. Ugh.


24 posted on 01/25/2015 3:53:41 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Morgana

United Pagan Church


31 posted on 01/25/2015 4:21:31 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Morgana
FTA: UMC Rev. Dr. Susan Henry-Crowe General Secretary General Board of Church & Society

I think I see the problem here^^^^

Throw in the fact of being "open" to abortion and it's clear God has nothing to do with the UMC.

35 posted on 01/25/2015 4:45:30 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Morgana; xzins

UMC ping.


40 posted on 01/25/2015 6:13:40 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: Morgana

IIRC it is the UMC churches in the rest of the world that’s holding the more liberal views of the American UMC churches in check at the Quadrennial meetings.


46 posted on 01/25/2015 9:31:36 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pointing out dereliction of duty is NOT fear mongering, especially in a panDEMic)
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