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Except for Mary, whom the angel acknowledged as “full of Grace.” How could she become so prior to Christ’s sacrifice on the cross, unless, as Catholics hold, she was specially gifted through God’s will to be born without original sin?


45 posted on 01/24/2015 5:18:36 PM PST by I-ambush (Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning)
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To: I-ambush
Why do you equate "grace" with a lack of sin?

Many saints are spoken of as experiencing God's grace.

In fact all saints are full of God's grace, having not earned salvation on their own.

50 posted on 01/24/2015 5:27:50 PM PST by what's up
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Mary was NEVER described as “full of grace”. That phrase does NOT exist in the Greek except for Christ and Stephen.


56 posted on 01/24/2015 5:41:21 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: I-ambush
How could she become so prior to Christ’s sacrifice on the cross, unless, as Catholics hold, she was specially gifted through God’s will to be born without original sin?

OOOPS!

Sinless Mary??
 
 
Luke 2:22-24
 
When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord  (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord”),  and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: “a pair of doves or two young pigeons.”
 

Leviticus 12:7-8
 
Then he shall offer it before the LORD and make atonement for her, and she shall be cleansed from the flow of her blood. This is the law for her who bears a child, whether a male or a female.
'But if she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall take two turtledoves or two young pigeons, the one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she will be clean.'"

178 posted on 01/25/2015 3:39:05 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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