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To: Iscool; Arthur McGowan
The Jesus who now sits at the right hand of God is not Mary's son

What are you trying to say?

Jesus is a single Person, with two natures, human and divine. His human nature has been glorified. This doesn't change the fact that Mary gave birth to Jesus in a stable in Bethlehem.

The Church and the Bible tell us that Mary is the "Queen of Heaven."

Jesus is the King of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom, the "Kingdom of God," or Christ's Church.

He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, (Luke 1:32)

These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. (Rev. 3:7)

In the Davidic kingdom, the mother of the king, the Queen Mother, or "Gebirah," enjoyed an exalted position, above that of the wives of the king. She sat on a throne at the right hand of Solomon.

When Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak to him for Adonijah, the king stood up to meet her, bowed down to her and sat down on his throne. He had a throne brought for the king’s mother, and she sat down at his right hand. (1 Kings 2:19)

Mary is the mother of the King of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom. She is the Queen Mother of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom, or the "Kingdom of God." (The Ark, which contained the manna, Aaron's staff, and the decalogue, was a type for Mary, who held within her womb "the bread of life," the eternal High Priest, and the Eternal Word.)

Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm. A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” (Rev 11:19-12:1-5)

164 posted on 01/25/2015 2:44:51 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
It never fails in these discussions about Mary: The hatred of Mary is so powerful in some people that they will deny the divinity of Jesus in order to denigrate Mary. All the while attacking Catholics as "non-Christians" who are "un-Biblical."
166 posted on 01/25/2015 2:49:57 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

You will discover that the response you get to any talk about “types” in the Old Testament—which what the Church’s “Sacred Tradition” is mostly about—will be met with scorn. “You’re just making all that up. The Garden of Eden, the Ark of the Covenent, manna, etc., all has absolutely nothing to do with Mary—or Jesus.”

Protestantism lost contact with the spiritual meaning of the Old Testament—i.e., what it has to teach us about Jesus, Mary, the sacraments, the spiritual progress of the Christian, etc.—very early on.


167 posted on 01/25/2015 2:58:31 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Jesus said, “Are you still so dull?”


210 posted on 01/25/2015 4:16:53 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; metmom; Gamecock; rnmom
The Church and the Bible tell us that Mary is the "Queen of Heaven."

Nope. Only the cult of the Roman Catholic Church teaches that Mary is "queen of Heaven."

Mariolatry at its finest once again.

Hoss

283 posted on 01/25/2015 7:36:54 AM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; Iscool; Arthur McGowan; metmom
>>The Church and the Bible tell us that Mary is the "Queen of Heaven."<<

No, it doesn't. The wife of the Father is Israel not Mary.

Isaiah 66:7 "Before she goes into labor, she gives birth; before the pains come upon her, she delivers a son.

Who was that?

Isaiah 66:8 Who has ever heard of such things? Who has ever seen things like this? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children.

Who is that Zion?

Isaiah 66:10 "Rejoice with Jerusalem and be glad for her, all you who love her; rejoice greatly with her, all you who mourn over her.

Now, who is our mother and the mother of Christ?

Galatians 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Catholics corrupt the words of scripture.

305 posted on 01/25/2015 8:51:36 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Jesus is a single Person, with two natures, human and divine. His human nature has been glorified. This doesn't change the fact that Mary gave birth to Jesus in a stable in Bethlehem.

Do you have some scripture for that??? No??? Just some Catholic mythology??? We will have a glorified body...

The Church and the Bible tell us that Mary is the "Queen of Heaven."

Only in Catholic fables...

Jesus is the King of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom, the "Kingdom of God," or Christ's Church.

David's Kingdom is NOT the Kingdom of God...Nor, is it your 'Church'...

Step away from your catechism and Staples and Hahn and read a bible...It's full of truth that's a mystery to them...

He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, (Luke 1:32)

Mary is the mother of the King of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom. She is the Queen Mother of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom, or the "Kingdom of God."

That's just biblical ignorance...If Mary is the mother of God, we Christians are more so...

(The Ark, which contained the manna, Aaron's staff, and the decalogue, was a type for Mary, who held within her womb "the bread of life," the eternal High Priest, and the Eternal Word.)

Really??? How'd she find room in there for manna, Aaron's staff, the Ten Commandments and Jesus???

Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm. A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” (Rev 11:19-12:1-5)

By claiming this is Mary, your religion is talking out of both sides of it many mouths...Your religion claims there was no pain in childbirth for Mary while claiming that this woman who undergoes pain at childbirth is the Mary who doesn't experience pain...What's up with that???

309 posted on 01/25/2015 9:01:06 AM PST by Iscool
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
The ONLY time "Mary's son" appears is in context with her OTHER children: Is this not the carpenter's son..."!

Son of GOD is found; "GOD's only son" is found; but Mary's child?

Not so much.

479 posted on 01/25/2015 4:47:45 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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