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Francis lambasts international aid, suggests Catholics should limit children
The National Catholic Reporter | January 19, 2015 | Joshua L. McElwee

Posted on 01/19/2015 5:25:30 PM PST by ebb tide

Pope Francis has obliquely but sharply criticized how financially stable nations lend aid to developing countries, saying they sometimes require concessions that strike echoes of 20th century dictatorships.

The pontiff has also made what appears to be an unprecedented statement that Catholics may have a moral responsibility to limit the number of their children, while reaffirming Pope Paul VI’s ban on artificial means of birth control.

Francis’ statement about development aid was a clarification of an earlier warning against what he called an "ideological colonization" of family life, made during a meeting with families in the Philippines last week. Speaking to media Monday, Francis recounted a story of a public education minister he knew who was offered money to construct new schools for the poor.

To receive the money, said Francis, the minister had to agree to use a course book with students that taught what the pontiff called "gender theory."

"This is the ideological colonization," said the pope. "It colonizes the people with an idea that changes, or wants to change, a mentality or a structure."

"It is not new, this," he continued. "The same was done by the dictators of the last century. They came with their own doctrine -- think of the Balilla [youth groups of Fascist Italy], think of the Hitler Youth."

"They colonized the people," he continued. "How much suffering -- peoples must not lose liberty."

"Every people has its own culture," said Francis. "But when imposed conditions come from the imperial colonizers, they seek to make [peoples] lose their own identity and make an homogeny."

Francis was speaking Monday in a nearly hour-long press conference aboard the papal plane traveling back to Rome from the Philippines. He was answering a question about remarks he made last Friday, in which he warned against such colonization in an apparent reference to efforts to legalize same-sex marriage and to use of contraception.

During the press conference the pope also confirmed details of his upcoming trip to the U.S. in September. For the second time in a week, Francis too reaffirmed Catholic teaching prohibiting the use of birth control.

Reaffirms prohibition on birth control

Francis said Pope Paul VI, whose 1968 encyclical Humanae Vitae outlined the contraceptive ban, was warning against a "Neo-Malthusianism, " a reference to a theories that suggested in the 1960s and ’70s that exponential global population growth would lead to an irreversible world food crisis.

Citing the low rates of birth specifically in Italy and Spain, Francis said such Neo-Malthusianism "seeks to control humanity."

At the same time, however, Francis made a statement that seems without precedent for a pope, suggesting that parents may have a responsibility to limit the number of their children, saying: "This does not signify that the Christian must make children in series."

Telling the story of a woman he met in a parish in Rome several months ago who had given birth to seven children via Cesarean section and was pregnant with an eighth, Francis asked: "Does she want to leave the seven orphans?"

"This is to tempt God," he said, adding later: "That is an irresponsibility." Catholics, the pope said, should speak of "responsible parenthood."

"How do we do this?" Francis asked. "With dialogue. Each person with his pastor seeks how to do that responsible parenthood."

"God gives you methods to be responsible," he continued. "Some think that -- excuse the word -- that in order to be good Catholics we have to be like rabbits. No."

"This is clear and that is why in the church there are marriage groups, there are experts in this matter, there are pastors," Francis said. Using the term for a practice that follows church law, he continued: "I know so many, many licit ways that have helped this."

Francis was speaking about birth control in response to a question from a Filipino journalist. Use of contraception in the Philippines is a contentious issue, as the Philippine government only recently approved contraceptive access against forceful opposition from Catholic bishops.

The pope's responses regarding birth control and ideological colonization were part of a wide-ranging conference that touched on a number of other subjects, including: Corruption in church structures, the place of women in church leadership, and global mistreatment of the poor that the pontiff said could be likened to a new form of "state-sponsored terrorism."

‘Ideological colonization’

Continuing to clarify his concept of "ideological colonization," Francis said he heard concerns about the matter from African bishops during last fall's Synod, who told him they often face difficult choices when presented with conditions of acceptance on much needed financial aid.

"I say to many that I have seen this," said the pope.

Francis compared such colonization to criticisms he has frequently made about the process of globalization -- saying that the homogenizing of peoples is "the globalization of the sphere -- [where] all the points are equidistant from the center."

"It is important to globalize but not like the sphere -- like the polyhedron," he continued. "Namely, that every people, every part, conserves its own identity without being ideologically colonized."

Francis on Monday also revealed more concrete plans for his trip to the U.S. in September, confirming reports that he is planning to visit Philadelphia, New York, and Washington but saying it is unlikely he will able to travel to the West Coast or to the U.S./Mexico border.

Mentioning his earlier announcement that he will canonize Franciscan Fr. Junipero Serra on the trip, an 18th century missionary in the Western U.S. and Mexico, Francis said: "I would like to go to California for the canonization ... but I think there is the problem of time. It requires two more days [to the trip]."

It is more likely, the pope said, that he will formalize the canonization during a liturgy at Washington's Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception. Francis said he might also host some sort of event to mark the occasion at the U.S. Capitol building, which contains a statue of the future saint.

Francis has been invited to address a joint session of Congress during his visit, which he is primarily making to attend the Sept. 22-27 World Meeting of Families in Philadelphia. The pontiff is also likely to address the United Nations in New York.

Francis also said on Monday he would have preferred to make a visit to the southern border of the U.S., but joked that he could not do so without visiting the Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico City.

No visit to border on U.S. trip

"To enter the United States from the border of Mexico would be a beautiful thing, as a sign of brotherhood and of help to the immigrants," he said. "But you know that going to Mexico without going to visit the Madonna is a drama. A war could break out!"

"I think there will only be those three cities," he continued. "Later, there will be time to go to Mexico."

Speaking briefly of the role of women in the church, Francis said Monday that women bring new perspectives to church communities.

"When I say it is important that women be held in higher consideration in the church, it’s not just to give them a function as the secretary of a dicastery," he said, referring to the general name for second-in-command positions of the different Vatican offices before adding: "But this can be OK."

"No, it’s so that they may tell us how they feel and view reality," he continued. "Because women view things from a different richness, a larger one."

Addressing a question about corruption in the church, Francis recalled a time as a auxiliary bishop in Argentina when he was offered about $400,000 for use towards ministry for the poor -- under the condition that he accept the money under the table and allow the benefactors to keep half the sum.

With rather colorful language, the pontiff said: "In that moment I thought about what I would do: Either I insult them and give them a kick where the sun doesn’t shine or I play the fool."

Emphasizing that he thinks of the church as a community of sinners, the pope continued: "Let’s remember this: Sinners, yes; the corrupt, no; the corrupt, never."

"We must ask pardon for those Catholics, those Christians who scandalize with their corruption," said Francis. "It’s a wound in the church, but there are so many saints, so many saints -- and sinner saints, but not corrupt [ones]."

On the Dalai Lama

Later in the press conference, Francis also rebutted news reports that he had refused to meet with the Dalai Lama while the Buddhist leader was in Rome late last year because the pope did not wish to harm relations between the Vatican and China.

While formal ties between the Holy See and the Asian country have been severed since 1951, Francis has said several times he would like to repair the relationship and would be willing to travel to China.

"I saw that some newspapers said I didn’t receive him out of fear of China," said the pope. "That’s not true."

The refusal to meet, said Francis, was due to a protocol of the Vatican's Secretariat of State that the pope does not meet "people at that level" when they are in Rome for conferences.

"The motive was not a refusal of a person, or fear of China," he said, mentioning that he also had not met with officials of the UN's Food and Agricultural Organization when they met in Rome last year.

More foreign trips planned

Francis also tentatively confirmed Monday that he is planning to visit three Latin American countries later this year -- Ecuador, Bolivia and Paraguay -- and two African countries: The Central African Republic and Uganda.

Saying he was speaking "hypothetically," the pope said he and organizers have to determine when would be best to go to Africa because of hot weather in the region during the summer and the continuing Ebola epidemic.

Francis also added that in 2016 he would like to travel to Chile, Argentina and Uruguay but said as yet no firm plans have been made for those visits. He added that he also wanted to visit Peru, but said he and organizers "don't know where to put it" in his schedule.

Announcement of all the trips led Jesuit Fr. Federico Lombardi, who was moderating the press conference, to interject with "everything is provisional" before joking: "We already have quite a precise and ample program of the travels of the next years."

Francis was visiting the Philippines Thursday-Sunday as the second trip in a two-part Asian voyage that saw him first visit Sri Lanka.

Speaking of his time in the Philippines, Francis said Monday that he was profoundly moved by an outdoor Mass he celebrated in Tacloban, an area of the country that was severely devastated by 2013's Typhoon Haiyan.

Francis celebrated the Mass amidst a tropical storm in the area, which was pouring rain on a crowd of some 300,000 and buffeting the area with 60 mile-an-hour winds.

To see the people there despite in those conditions, said the pontiff, "I felt as though I was annihilated. I almost couldn’t speak."

Francis also said he was struck by how many in the crowds -- which grew to an estimated record-breaking 6 million for an outdoor Mass with the pope in Manila on Sunday -- were holding up children above their heads to receive a papal blessing.

It was a gesture, said the pope, that "this is my treasure, this is my future, this is my love, for this one it’s worth working, for this one it’s worth suffering."

"It’s the way they did this that struck me," he said. "The gesture of motherhood, of fatherhood, of enthusiasm, of joy."


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: catholicbashing; francis; heresy
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To: SpirituTuo
Responsible fatherhood and motherhood in part, means exercising self control when the family doesn’t have the ability to reasonably care for the child (think very poor families, like many in the Philippines).

I'd rather have a destitute, beggar child go to Heaven, than him never being conceived. I don't know about you, though.

Your argument above is the same one Planned Parenthood preaches to poor blacks and whites to encourage abortions.

41 posted on 01/19/2015 6:28:45 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
[To enter the United States from the border of Mexico would be a beautiful thing, as a sign of brotherhood and of help to the immigrants,” he said.]

Such statements on illegal immigration, man-made global warming, and “neocolonialism” seem to indicate the pope and Obama have joined forces in a rhetorical war. This hack should not be allowed to address Congress. He will be reading White House talking points.

42 posted on 01/19/2015 6:32:15 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: The Good Doctor

Do good Catholics call the Successor of Peter “idiot?” I think not. It is disrespectful and shows a lack of charity.

It is one thing to believe what you have written, which is certainly your own business, and it is legitimate to offer criticism, however, insults are inappropriate.

Charity demands one say something like, “I disagree with his remarks, and don’t like either the presentation or the tone. I think he is quite off the mark.” However, insults and name calling are just plain wrong.

Would you like to be called an idiot?


43 posted on 01/19/2015 6:34:34 PM PST by SpirituTuo
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To: ebb tide

I predicted yesterday that this clown would probably come out for birth control and abortion.


44 posted on 01/19/2015 6:34:37 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: ebb tide
The pontiff has also made what appears to be an unprecedented statement that Catholics may have a moral responsibility to limit the number of their children

Full quiver = excessive carbon footprint.

45 posted on 01/19/2015 6:39:08 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: livius

“Will he ever shut up? Will he kindly shut up”

I ask myself that question every day, because every day he says something dumber than the day before. On the flight where he insulted Catholics and compared them to breeding rabbits, he goes on to tell a reporter about him kicking someone in the ass because they said something he didn’t like. Just blabbing on trying to be funny. Remember when the pope actually conducted himself with grace and dignity? Seems like a lifetime ago.


46 posted on 01/19/2015 6:39:17 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: ebb tide

Well, you may believe it be inferior, but it is part of the Ordinary Magisterium of the Church.

By office, are you in authority to deem the CCC inferior, or is it merely your opinion?

As I suspect it is your opinion, it appears you are holding people to a standard of your choosing, and not of the Church.


47 posted on 01/19/2015 6:40:38 PM PST by SpirituTuo
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To: ebb tide

I don’t remember hearing so much about the daily lives of other Popes. I think I miss that. At least the other Popes weren’t crazy.


48 posted on 01/19/2015 6:43:37 PM PST by Politicalkiddo ( 'We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.')
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To: SpirituTuo
Well, you may believe it be inferior, but it is part of the Ordinary Magisterium of the Church.

Big whoop! Altar chickettes and Holy Communion on the tongue are also parts of the Ordinary Rite of Mass. Doesn't mean either is "meet and just", nor is the silly, lazy notion of Ascension "Sunday".

49 posted on 01/19/2015 6:46:08 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Politicalkiddo

None of the other Popes were Jesuits; they were all Catholics.


50 posted on 01/19/2015 6:47:03 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

You are off the mark. I wish to have life brought into this world.

The teaching of the Church is based on a simple principal. One is not required to sex. If one chooses to abstain from sex in total, as in priests and the unmarried, it is admirable. If a husband and wife, having truly examined their desire to not have a child at a certain time, for good reason, they are not required to have sex during her fertile time.

What this DOES NOT teach, however, is something along the lines of not wanting a child out of convenience, or sacrifice. Those reasons would be selfish, and neither open to love nor to life.

Please do not insult me with even the remotest comparison to Planned Parenthood. They are pure evil.


51 posted on 01/19/2015 6:47:29 PM PST by SpirituTuo
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To: ebb tide

52 posted on 01/19/2015 6:48:21 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: NKP_Vet

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/19/did-iran-murder-argentina-s-crusading-prosecutor-alberto-nisman.html


53 posted on 01/19/2015 6:48:26 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: SpirituTuo
You are off the mark. I wish to have life brought into this world.

Good for you. Too bad Francis isn't as gung-ho as you.

54 posted on 01/19/2015 6:51:06 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

And still there are cathoholics who will defend “his highness” to the end. I had respect for Joe Ratzinger, but this man is nothing but a liberal stooge and tool.

Thank God I left that “church” years ago.


55 posted on 01/19/2015 6:51:20 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: knarf

This seems rather odd for a Pope to suggest, if, IF it is true, I don’t trust the media though.


56 posted on 01/19/2015 6:52:10 PM PST by shemyk344
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To: ebb tide

You are entitled to your opinion. However, it is just that, yours, binding on no one, in no place, and at no time.

Like Cardinal Burke, I am against female altar servers. I am for reception on the tongue.

On a separate note regarding liturgical abuses, it drives me crazy to see people (especially assisting deacons) ape the priest’s Orans Posture.

I have made my concerns known to the Pastor, as well as other priest, and my catechism pupils.

However, I have to trust, as Jesus told Peter, that the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. And having read some of the most tempestuous times of the Church, we are doing pretty okay. Thank God we don’t have Arius around anymore.


58 posted on 01/19/2015 6:55:05 PM PST by SpirituTuo
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To: SpirituTuo; ebb tide
You're quite correct, SpirituTuo. Not only is it in the Catechism, it's also in Humanae Vitae. The Church does counsel responsible parenthood.

From the above encyclical:

10. With regard to the biological processes, responsible parenthood means an awareness of, and respect for, their proper functions. In the procreative faculty the human mind discerns biological laws that apply to the human person.

With regard to man's innate drives and emotions, responsible parenthood means that man's reason and will must exert control over them.

With regard to physical, economic, psychological and social conditions, responsible parenthood is exercised by those who prudently and generously decide to have more children, and by those who, for serious reasons and with due respect to moral precepts, decide not to have additional children for either a certain or an indefinite period of time.

However, IMHO, there is still a problem with the Pope's words as reported. Specifically, his use of the disparaging phrase "like rabbits" as well as his off-hand, derisory reference to the pregnant lady with seven children. Sadly, +Francis' words reinforce the popular pejorative stereotype of Catholics who heroically follow Church teaching and do not use artificial contraception.

He could have made the point in a far more charitable, concise and less bombastic manner. However, as is by now routine, whenever a microphone is placed in front of him and a captive audience beckons, the sound of his own voice appears to be self-intoxicating.

59 posted on 01/19/2015 6:56:32 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: SpirituTuo
The teaching of the Church is based on a simple principal. One is not required to [have] sex.

If that's the case, why can't chaste homos marry?

60 posted on 01/19/2015 6:56:59 PM PST by ebb tide
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