Posted on 01/09/2015 7:27:11 AM PST by Salvation
There is a common misunderstanding of the meaning of the Biblical phrase the flesh. There are many references to the flesh in New Testament Scripture, especially in the letters of St. Paul. The phrase confuses some, who think it synonymous with the physical body or merely with sexual sin.
It is true that there are many times when Scripture uses the word flesh to refer to the physical body. However, when the definite article the is placed before the word flesh we are most often dealing with something else. Only very rarely does the Biblical phrase the flesh (ἡ σὰρξ (he sarx), in Greek) refer only to the physical body (e.g., John 6:53; Phil 3:2; 1 John 4:2); rather, it almost always the phrase refers to something quite distinct from merely the physical body.
fWhat then is meant by the term the flesh (ἡ σὰρξ)? Perhaps most plainly it refers to the part of us that is alienated from God. It is the rebellious, unruly, obstinate part of our inner self that is operative all the time. It is the part of us that doesnt want to be told what to do. It is stubborn, refuses correction, and doesnt want to have a thing to do with God. It bristles at limits and rules. It recoils at anything that might cause me to be diminished or to be something less than the center of the universe. The flesh hates to be under authority or to have to yield to anything other than its own wishes and desires. The flesh often desires something simply because it is forbidden.
The recent Protestant translations of the Bible such as the NIV often call the flesh our sin nature, which is all right unless the term nature is understood in the stricter philosophical sense. (For sin is not something that we should posit as coming from our nature, but rather as emerging more from our fallen condition, from the fact that our nature has been wounded.) In Catholic tradition, the flesh is where concupiscence sets up shop. Concupiscence refers to the strong inclination to sin that is in us as a result of the wound of Original Sin. If you do not think that your flesh is strong, just try to pray for five minutes and watch how quickly your mind wants to think of anything but God. Just try to fast or to be less selfish; then watch how quickly your flesh goes to war.
The flesh is in direct conflict with the spirit. The spirit here refers not to the Holy Spirit, but to the human spirit. The (human) spirit is the part of us that is open to God, that desires and is drawn to Him. It is the part of us that is attracted by goodness, beauty, and truth, the part that yearns for completion in God, the part that longs to see His face. Without the spirit, we would be totally turned in on ourselves and consumed by the flesh. Thankfully, our spirit, assisted by the Holy Spirit, draws us to desire what is best, upright, good, and helpful.
Perhaps it is good that we look at just a few texts which reference the flesh and thus learn more of the flesh and its ways. This will help us to be on our guard and to rebuke it (by Gods grace) and learn not to feed it. I make some comments in red following each quote.
1. The Flesh does not grasp spiritual teachings - [Jesus said] The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life (John 6:63).
Having heard Jesus teaching on the Eucharist, most of his listeners ridicule it and will no longer take Jesus seriously. So Jesus indicates that their hostility to the teaching on the Eucharist is of the flesh. The flesh demands that everything be obvious to it on its own terms. The flesh demands to see physical proof for everything; it demands that it be able to see using its own unregenerate power. And if it cannot see based on its own limited view, it simply rejects spiritual truth out of hand. In effect, the flesh refuses to believe at all since what it really demands is something that will force it to accept something. Absolute proof takes things out of the realm of faith and trust. Faith is no longer necessary when something is absolutely proven and plainly visible to the eyes of flesh. The flesh simply refuses to believe and demands proof.
2. The flesh is not willing to depend on anyone or anything outside its own power or control For it is we who are the circumcision, we who worship by the Spirit of God, who glory in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh though I myself have reasons for such confidence. If anyone else thinks he has reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for legalistic righteousness, faultless .I [now] consider this rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ (Phil 3:3-9 selected)
The flesh wants to be in control rather than to have to trust in God. Hence it sets up its own observance, under its own control. And when it has met its own demands it declares itself to be righteous. Since the flesh hates being told what to do it takes Gods law and makes it manageable based on the fleshs own terms. So, for example, if I am supposed to love, let me limit it to my family and countrymen but I am allowed to hate my enemy. But Jesus says, no, love your enemy. The flesh recoils at this for unless the law is manageable and within the power of the flesh to accomplish it, the Law cannot be controlled. The flesh trusts only in its own power. The Pharisees were self-righteous That is to say, they believed in a righteousness that they themselves brought about through their flesh power. But the Law and flesh cannot save. Only Jesus Christ can save. The flesh refuses this and wants to control the outcome based on its own power and terms.
3. The Flesh hates to be told what to do For when we were controlled by the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death. (Rom 7:5)
The disobedience and rebelliousness of the flesh roots us in sinful behavior and prideful attitudes. The prideful attitude of the flesh is even more dangerous than the sins that flow from the flesh since pride precludes instruction in holiness and possible repentance that lead to life. But the flesh does not like to be told what to do. Hence it rejects the testimony of the the Church, the scriptures and the conscience. Notice, according to the text, the very existence of Gods Law arouses the passions of the flesh. The fact that something is forbidden makes the flesh want it all the more! This strong inclination to sin is in the flesh and comes from pride and indignation at being told what to do. The flesh is refuses Gods Law and sets up its own rules. The flesh will not be told what to do.
4. Flesh is as flesh does - Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the spirit have their minds set on what the spirit desires. The concern of the flesh is death, but the concern of the spirit is life and peace (Rom 8:5-6)
The flesh is intent on things of this world, upon gratifying its own passions and desires. On account of the flesh we are concerned primarily with ourselves and seek to be at the center. The flesh is turned primarily inward. St Augustine describes the human person in the flesh as curvatus in se (turned in upon himself). But the spirit is that part of us that looks outward toward God and opens us the truth and holiness that God offers. Ultimately the flesh is focused on death for it is concerned with what is passing away: the body and the world. The human spirit is focused on life for it focuses on God who is life and light.
5. The Flesh is intrinsically hostile to God The mind of the flesh is hostile to God. It does not submit to Gods law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. (Rom 8:7-8)
The flesh is hostile to God because it is pridefully hostile to any one more important than itself. Further the flesh does not like being told what to do. Hence it despises authority or anyone who tries to tell it what to do. It cannot please God because it does not want to.
6. The Flesh abuses freedom - You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another in love. (Gal 5:13)
The flesh turns God given freedom into licentiousness. Licentiousness is to demand freedom without limit. Since the flesh does not want to be told what to do it demands to be able to do what ever it wants. In effect the flesh says, I will do what I want to do and I will decide if it is right or wrong. This is licentiousness and it is an abuse of freedom. It results in indulgence and paradoxically leads to a slavery to the senses and the passions.
7. The Flesh Demands to be fed - So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want. (Gal 5:16-17)
Within the human person is this deep conflict between the flesh and spirit. We must not be mistaken, the flesh is in us and it is strong. It has declared war on our spirit and on the Holy Spirit of God. When the spirit tries to obey the flesh resists and tries to sabotage the best aspirations of the spirit. We must be sober about this conflict and understand that this is why we do not do what we most know is right. The flesh has to die and the spirit come more alive. What you feed grows. If we feed the flesh it will grow. If we feed the spirit it will grow. What are you feeding? Are you sober about the power of the flesh and do you and I therefore feed our spirit well through Gods word and holy communion, through prayer and the healing power of confession. What are you feeding?
8. The Flesh fuels sin The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God (Gal 5:19-210)
This catalogue of sins that flow from the flesh is not exhaustive but is representative of the offensive and obnoxious behavior that flows from the flesh. Be sober about the flesh, it produces ugly children.
9. The Flesh hates authority - This [condemnation by God] is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh and despise authority. (2 Peter 2:10)
Clear enough, the flesh hates authority and, did I mention (?) The flesh does not want to be told what to do.
So here is a portrait of the flesh. It is ugly. You may say I have exaggerated, that the flesh is not really this bad. Well I am not, just buy a newspaper and see what the flesh is up to. You may, by Gods grace, have seen a diminishment in the power of the flesh in your life. That is ultimately what God can and will do for us. He will put the flesh to death in us and bring alive our spirit by the power of his Holy Spirit. But step one is to appreciate what the flesh is and understand its moves. Step two is to bring this understanding to God through repentance. Step three is, by Gods grace, to stop feeding the flesh and start feeding the spirit on prayer, scripture, Church teaching and Holy Communion. Step four is to repeat steps 1-3 for the rest of our lives. God by his grace will cause the flesh to die and the spirit to live by his grace at work in us through Jesus Christ.
Too late!
What does that have to do with anything?
I have done it ...and it assures me that the wafer is an idol made with human hands
Exactly right.
1440 Gutenberg invented movable type and 1450 a fully functioning printing press. one of the first books printed in 1455 was the Catholic Bible (Long before Trent) of which there are approximately 50 intact copies still remaining. One of which is still in the Library of Congress.
You have made an error.
Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work; Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is a sabbath unto Jehovah thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy man-servant, nor thy maid-servant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: Exo 20:11 for in six days Jehovah made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore Jehovah blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Before this in chapter 16 they gathered the manna on 6 days out of 7.
Exo 16:22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for each one: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses. Exo 16:23 And he said unto them, This is that which Jehovah hath spoken, Tomorrow is a solemn rest, a holy sabbath unto Jehovah: bake that which ye will bake, and boil that which ye will boil; and all that remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning. Exo 16:24 And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not become foul, neither was there any worm therein. Exo 16:25 And Moses said, Eat that to-day; for to-day is a sabbath unto Jehovah: to-day ye shall not find it in the field. Exo 16:26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day is the sabbath, in it there shall be none. Exo 16:27 And it came to pass on the seventh day, that there went out some of the people to gather, and they found none.
Hardly sounds like Pharisaical legalisms. God was doing this even before the 10 commandments.
On other RF forum threads......
Check out CB’s posting history.
Exodus 16:26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
Makes it pretty definite NO WORK: INCLUDING PICKING SOMETHING TO EAT.
Comprehension has NEVER been a prot strong suit.
Go back and restudy the lesson. The manna wasn’t provided on the Sabbath as it was God’s Day of Rest, not to prevent it from being eaten. Instead, He provided a double potion the day prior for their providence on the Sabbath. (Ex 16)
Even Christ Himself picked food on the Sabbath. The issue was living through faith in Him.
Jesus healed on the Sabbath and the Pharisees said the same thing to Him.
Imagine that.
Knowledge of Scripture has never been a Catholic strong point.
Do you watch football on Sundays?
Yet your faith believes that only Catholics have a "completed" relationship with Jesus Christ.
And one highly respected leaders of your belief system says if children are not sprinkled (uses the term baptism, which sprinkling when a baby is NOT) and they die in childhood that God will send them to hell! [I've posted the proof of that recently if you don't believe it]
How's that for denigrating Jesus' love for Children?
How about inane condescending questions asked frequently such as "do you have a Bible?", "do you read the Bible?" and "does your Bible contain [insert any book of the Bible]?
All from Catholics, now that should fit under your "air of contempt" don't ya think?
Plus goading, ridicule, deriding, taunting [provoke or challenge (someone) with insulting remarks] all to show superiority apparently.
Plus watch how much the term prot is used derisively to describe ANYONE that is not Catholic.
Personal questions tsk tsk tsk...
If there is a post out there that is otherwise, I have yet to see it.
At least he shows people where they're wrong from Scripture instead of simply posting *You're wrong* and leaving at that.
When have I posted, "You're wrong"?
BTW, you do monitor the RC's posts to ensure they they hold to your standards and chastise them when they don't as well, don't you?
That was not chastisement; it was strictly an observation, with encouragement to proclaim beliefs with joy (a Fruit of the Holy Spirit).
As I stated in my post, each person is responsible for what they post.
After all, you wouldn't want to leave the impression of hypocrisy.
I'm not a hypocrite. I said, "Proclaim your faith with joy and fraternal love! You don't need to denigrate another's faith to proclaim yours." I respect a person's right to believe other than I do.
Two points 1) Catholics have the entire Bible, not the Readers Digest version ordered made by a sodomite that was into Wiccan.
2) This IS My body... This IS My blood....seems pretty clear to anyone that can read. It is not the mysterious, veiled, blurred comments the prots like to make it out to be.
Hi!
1. Check again about unBaptised children.
2. In our Baptism, a person may be immersed if an adult and the parish has the facilities; otherwise, water is poured over the Catechumen’s head. Sprinkling is for blessings.
3. I am responsible for what I post. If you dislike what a person posted, you may address them personally or contact the RM.
4. I have taken my own share of name-calling on this site, both personally and to my Catholic Faith.
5. Each of us believes that ours is the true belief system. I as a Catholic believe that my Faith comes closest to the truth. Do I believe that everyone else is going to hell? Of course not! God works in each person’s soul differently, and does not wish to lose a single soul, unless that soul uses its free will to go against God.
Hope that clears things up a bit...
Too late!
You're entitled to your opinion, just as I am to mine.
I’m sorry; I was making an observation on a plethora of negative posts. Mind reading was not my intention. I apologize.
Thank you!
You are right ..sorry
LOL!
Cause knowing that is sure to compromise someone’s screen name.
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