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How A San Diego Scientist Helped Shape The Pope’s Climate Change Plans
KPBS ^ | 12/29/14 | David Wagner

Posted on 12/31/2014 11:01:03 AM PST by BlatherNaut

...The church is prioritizing climate change just months after the Scripps Institution of Oceanography's Veerabhadran "Ram" Ramanathan organized a Vatican meeting on the issue.

Ramanathan said the discussion, which spanned four days in May, was encouraging.

"The Vatican agreed that we need a massive mobilization of public opinion about the seriousness of the issue, and why it's our responsibility to be good stewards of the planet," he said.

Ramanathan is a member of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences. He believes religious leaders are now in a better position than scientists to inspire action....

(Excerpt) Read more at kpbs.org ...


TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: california; climatechange; popefrancis; ramanathan; romancatholicism; sandiego; vatican
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Jack Kennedy, after all, appealed to the electorate, not by saying he was such a comprehensive Catholic,

Appealed to the electorate?

You mean to the non-Christians and Catholics, he only won 1% more of the Christian vote that is not Catholic, than the democrat candidate before him, did, a big jump from 42% to 43%.

41 posted on 12/31/2014 6:17:07 PM PST by ansel12 (They hate us, because they ain't us.)
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To: ansel12
Too bad we're not more like the Protestant world: let's see: the UK, Norway, Sweden, Denmark? Northern Germany --- mm, Canada? --maybe South Africa?

Let's leave off. This is fruitless sniping. We all need to get down on our knees before God and pray for these slip-slidin' churches of ours, this sinking nation of ours, and this God-forsaking world.

42 posted on 12/31/2014 6:27:11 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (He comes to judge the living and the dead, and the world by fire.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

This is fascinating, I watch some people on FR pretend to be pro-life and pro-marriage, until voting and politics enters the discussion, which it must, since politics decides our laws, then we see the most bizarre and energetic attempts to defend the democrat voting of the Catholic denomination.


43 posted on 12/31/2014 6:37:31 PM PST by ansel12 (They hate us, because they ain't us.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Let's leave off. This is fruitless sniping.

Discussing politics and voting on a political forum, is of course normal, but I notice that it does lead to sniping from members of one democrat voting church denomination.

44 posted on 12/31/2014 6:47:19 PM PST by ansel12 (They hate us, because they ain't us.)
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To: BlatherNaut

I’m waiting to see what the Pope does before I go off. There is a wide range of comments he can make from common sense, “be stewards of the earth”, to communistic decrees. We’ll see.


45 posted on 12/31/2014 7:39:13 PM PST by Regal
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Since warming is zero, we can reduce it any amount we want. But we need more CO2 so the plants don’t die.<

And people living at subsistence levels will also die as a result of the increased cost of food if the "climate change" charlatans have their way.

46 posted on 12/31/2014 9:04:52 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Mrs. Don-o; ansel12; don-o
The whole problem with the Catholic voters; the Catholic politicos; the Catholic opinion-leaders; is that they are not Catholic enough.

I hope that it is changing though. First, it has gotten to the point when more people recognize that they faith was gradually stolen from them and they learn to resist it.

Second, we have more courageous priests and religious, and lay apologists who educate the public. Mother Angelica with EWTN, Father Fessio with Ignatius Press, Karl Keating and his Catholic Answers Live and catholic.com have become leaders of American Catholic revival. That cannot be reversed.

Thirdly we have the Internet. I am convinced that through efforts of countless bloggers and through unimpeded access to the Holy Scripture and the works of the Fathers of the Church the foundational lies of Protestantism will be exposed. Soon the day will come when no one will be taking seriously Protestant claims of adherence to the Word of God, and with that, Catholic Church will be one clear choice for anyone interested in the teaching of Jesus Christ.

Will it be culturally more Latino-Pole-Italian-Bavarian etc.? Probably not. The assimilation process is in the American fabric; we recently notice the Latinos because the left-wing cultural regime stopped assisting people who assimilate. But like water cannot run uphill, so americanization of the Latino is inevitable. The people around me in the pews are all, perhaps, Schmidts who style themselves Smiths, but they are all American. There are distinctly immigrant churches, -- I lovingly remember one in Sacramento that was Vietnamese-Hispanic at about 80%, but the cusp of New American Catholic movement will be educated and white, and mainstream.

47 posted on 01/01/2015 9:33:29 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

The Catholic vote won’t change, it will continue as it has historically, the majority of the Catholic denomination’s members will continue to support the democrat party.


48 posted on 01/01/2015 9:47:39 AM PST by ansel12 (They hate us, because they ain't us.)
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To: ansel12
"...attempts to defend the democrat voting of the Catholic denomination." This is outrageous. I have never defended Democratic voting by Catholics, and neither has any other Catholic on this forum.

This discussion has strayed far from reality. God grant all blessings on you and those whom you hold dear. Good bye, don't ping me, and have a very, very good new year.

49 posted on 01/01/2015 9:57:00 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: annalex
Thank you, annalex, for this post, which --- like everything you write --- is full of both reality and good will.

A Happy 2015 to you -— enjoy your blessings and may God grant you many more.

50 posted on 01/01/2015 10:02:26 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Attempts have been made to ignore the simple facts relevant to the discussion, in an effort to defend Catholics voting as they do, as they have, and as they will.

Not only is the Catholic voter defended, but so is the immigration policy importing millions of more of those democrat voters.

The European leadership knows what it is doing with it’s political statements regarding “climate”.


51 posted on 01/01/2015 10:03:29 AM PST by ansel12 (They hate us, because they ain't us.)
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To: ansel12

Not the leading edge of the new American Catholics. That is conservative in general and staunchly pro-life, at the time when the Democrat party has gone off-the-cliff pro-gay and pro-abort.

The bulk of American Catholics still associate the Democratic party with the ethnic working class. That association is a relic of the past and it will change.


52 posted on 01/01/2015 1:35:24 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Nothing will change with the Catholics, the majority will always support the pro-abortion democrats, we will be lucky if we can get a couple of more republican presidential votes from them, to go along with the 4 or 5 from the past.


53 posted on 01/01/2015 1:37:59 PM PST by ansel12 (They hate us, because they ain't us.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Happy new year!



The Coronation of the Virgin

Velázquez

54 posted on 01/01/2015 1:38:57 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Brilliant and beautiful!


55 posted on 01/01/2015 1:50:56 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: ansel12

Well, I would be more interested in what you are saying if you used some reason to go along empty assertions, like I did.


56 posted on 01/01/2015 2:20:31 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Empty assertions? I thought you were the one doing that, with feel good nothings that contradict the facts.

I’m just relating voting data.


57 posted on 01/01/2015 2:25:52 PM PST by ansel12 (They hate us, because they ain't us.)
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To: BlatherNaut

Too bad the Pope didn’t listen to San Diego’s John Coleman. He was one of the founders of the weather channel and is outspoken how there is no such thing as global warming.


58 posted on 01/01/2015 2:27:43 PM PST by CAluvdubya (<------- has now left CA for NV, where God and guns have not been outlawed! Molon Labe)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Your off to a great start in 2015, Mrs. Don-o. You’ve written the truth and you’ve written it well. And yes, it did all start with Cardinal Gibbons and Americanism, but ask a priest about that today and they’ll call it the “phantom” heresy. The average catholic has never even heard of it.

As you know, of course, so much more could be said; but unfortunately, there are very few Catholics who would listen today. Your observations about the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass (which they now call the “Eucharistic Celebration”), is spot on. In fact, it is for many of the very reasons you’ve articulated in your post that my wife and I make the long drive into DC to attend the Tridentine Mass at St Mary’s..

Most of us who care about the Church can do little about any of this; but what we can and must do is to continue to keep the leaders of the Church in our prayers. I am absolute convinced that all of the difficulties that we are witnessing in the Church today relates back to Fatima. Perhaps in time the pope and bishops will recognize that as well, and then do what the Blessed Mother requested of them. Maybe then we’ll get back on the right track.


59 posted on 01/01/2015 2:32:25 PM PST by tomsbartoo (St Pius X watch over us)
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To: ansel12

And I explained that the ethnic working class demographic that was the bulk of the Catholic vote is diminishing and what is left of it is turning republican.

I also explained that we need to look for leadership, not for the Catholic masses. I might add that is it so especially now with the huge Catholic immigrant influx that vote democratic.

Voting data tells you about the past. Structural analysis tells you about the future. The future America will be Catholic and Christian, or not believing in anything. The Protestant component, historically dominant, is vanishing as a factor. In a generation or two it will cease to be noticeable.


60 posted on 01/01/2015 4:06:54 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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