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Pope Francis curses sinners
The Tenth Crusade ^ | December 18, 2014 | The Tenth Crusade

Posted on 12/18/2014 8:27:09 PM PST by ebb tide

I kinda wasn't too surprised to hear the pope say he prays that people fall to temptation.

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out the kind of Catholics he curses.

You know the irony of his ruthless perversion of prayer and role of a Pope?

Catholics who want their religion taught to them are the very Catholics who humbly acknowledge their temptation and sin. That is why we constantly beg for pastoral perspectives on ways to recognize the devil long before he has us duped, ways to circumvent temptation and sin and remain in a state of Sanctifying Grace.

We are, in fact, the very people who are examining our conscience, going to confession to have our sins absolved, filling our soul with the Body and Blood of Christ so we have the strength to not act on our temptations.

When we go to the Pope to ask him to preserve the institution to cure sinners with Sanctifying Grace, he utters a curse that we fall into sin.

This is nothing new. We have been dealing with priests and bishops like him for as long as we can remember.

They stop giving us the tools we need to stay in a state of Grace. Then they say things that make listeners think sins aren't sins anymore. Then when those of us who know they are sins ask for the Church that absolves sins, they get pissy and start insulting us, calling us names. They publicly tell the congregation that folks like us who don't want to sell our soul for a hug and kiss from them, are antiquated people who don't know what love is.

They send hostility and venom our direction, throw the word "Pharisee" around and misrepresent Christ and the Gospel.

This one curses us.

I wish he would simply have the decency to face the reasons he doesn't want us around. Our presence and witness reminds people what they are doing - or teaching others to do - is sinful. What we have to do to ask for the Church that absolves sins and gives out Sanctifying Grace, makes what they teach and do, a lie. They can't feel good about what they are saying and doing so they concoct a tall story that we are viscous people who deserve their slander, insults and exiles.

The pope has seriously damaged Church teaching. It has robbed people I love and care about of right judgement they need for their salvation. It would be sinful to express how I feel about his antics. But in my worst hour I have never wished he fall into temptation and sin to fix his perversion of humility.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Prayer
KEYWORDS: francis; popefrancis; sin
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1 posted on 12/18/2014 8:27:10 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

This is probably not the most incoherent blog I’ve ever read, but it’s right up there.


2 posted on 12/18/2014 8:30:07 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: BlatherNaut; piusv; Legatus; Wyrd bið ful aræd; Arthur McGowan; NKP_Vet; nanetteclaret; ...
Pope Francis: I ask the Lord: ‘But Lord, throw a banana peel in front of them, so that they will take a good fall, and feel shame that they are sinners, and so encounter You, [and realize] that You are the Saviour.
3 posted on 12/18/2014 8:33:19 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Read the headline and knew it was someone with a sense of humor.:)


4 posted on 12/18/2014 8:34:15 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: ebb tide
I kinda wasn't too surprised to hear the pope say he prays that people fall to temptation.

People that follow Christ don't do that. Jesus never prayed that people fall into temptation. No real Christian would.

5 posted on 12/18/2014 8:39:12 PM PST by BipolarBob
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To: ebb tide

Such a kind, loving shepherd. /s


6 posted on 12/18/2014 8:40:43 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: fatima

He wasn’t joking. The Pope actually asked God to tempt good people to sin.


7 posted on 12/18/2014 8:42:11 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I am a Catholic, Catholic educated, and I have no idea of what you are talking about....none!!


8 posted on 12/18/2014 8:47:22 PM PST by terycarl ( common sense prevails over all)
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To: ebb tide

Could you elaborate?


9 posted on 12/18/2014 8:48:06 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: ebb tide

Ebb Tide,I don’t want to get in a debate with you.I thought the title was joking..


10 posted on 12/18/2014 8:51:38 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Jeff Chandler; terycarl

See Post #3


11 posted on 12/18/2014 8:52:45 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
I have no idea what you are talking about, so here's a pope with a pancake on his head =>


12 posted on 12/18/2014 8:53:53 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet stays on the internet.)
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To: ebb tide
Err, not being Catholic but know my bible, I can state that Paul (St. Paul to you) states quite clearly that if anyone says he(she) does not sin, he(she) is a lair. That "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, (Rom. 3:23) are in need of a Savior, who is Jesus Christ our Lord.

Paul also went further to exclaim that he was "chief among sinners."

Not hearing or reading actual quotes from your Pope, I would state that he is in error, if he is praying for people to "slide into sin" so that they will recognize their need of forgiveness, for we all, including himself, are in need of forgiveness that only Jesus alone can grant.

I pray that others reading this missive realize they are in dangerous waters if they think that their "good deeds" will save them from Hell, for those "good deeds" are nothing but "dirty rags," again, according to Paul (St. Paul.)

13 posted on 12/18/2014 9:00:26 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: ebb tide

We are all sinners..


14 posted on 12/18/2014 9:05:34 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: ebb tide

“Ya dadblasted, flat-footed, fur-bearin’ varmint!”
Yosemite Sam’s curse on Mr. B. Bunny


15 posted on 12/18/2014 9:14:24 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: terycarl; Larry Lucido; fatima; Jeff Chandler; Ken H
Does this help?

Did The Pope Blaspheme During Yesterday's Homily?

Or how about this? Does this help? (It's the end of the Our Father).

.... and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.

16 posted on 12/18/2014 9:20:14 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Citation please.


17 posted on 12/18/2014 9:48:32 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

Sigh

See Post #3


18 posted on 12/18/2014 9:54:59 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

In the interest of charity I take that to mean that people sometimes do not realize they are sinners because they are so proud of their outer life not taking into account the state of their interior life. That we need to be humbled and reminded of how powerless we are against sin without the Grace of Christ. This part concerns me much more.

But the simple people,” the Pope said, “do not err,” despite the words of these doctors of the law, “because the people know, they have a certain ‘flair’ for the faith.”

The simple people with a flair for the faith have been erring right and left and all around the block if ignorance displayed by so many “Catholic” poll takers is entered into evidence. The Pope’s contempt for those who do their best to guard the faith and teach it is alarming.

I dislike that he sets it as an either or position. Either you are a simple person who has a flair for faith without bothering with all that edumacation stuff or you are a rigid prideful doctor of law who has no real love of Christ in your heart. Why can’t a person be both humble in how they approach Christ and wise in faith?

To me it sounds like he is getting ready to ask the Church abandon some major teachings regarding the family.


19 posted on 12/18/2014 10:00:19 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: ebb tide

Never ping me.Take me off your ping list.I did not give you permission to put me on your ping list.Ebb Tibe-Never ping me.Thank You.


20 posted on 12/18/2014 10:06:26 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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