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4 Literally Awesome Facts About Our Lady of Guadalupe
churchpop.com ^ | December 11, 2014 | Mattew Sewell

Posted on 12/17/2014 11:31:24 AM PST by millegan

But this article isn’t about the whole apparition story so much as it is about the tilma, Juan Diego’s cloak, on which the image of the Blessed Mother was imprinted. In the centuries following the event, some amazing and unexplainable qualities have been discovered about it.

Here’s four (literally) awesome facts about the tilma of Our Lady of Guadalupe:

(Excerpt) Read more at churchpop.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; History
KEYWORDS: catholic; church; guadalupe; mary; olg; ourladyofguadalupe
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1 posted on 12/17/2014 11:31:24 AM PST by millegan
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To: millegan

Well here we go again. :) Thanks for the thread.


2 posted on 12/17/2014 11:32:44 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: millegan

It bears some striking similarities to the Shroud of Turin.

Like the Shroud, I believe it is the real deal.


3 posted on 12/17/2014 11:38:37 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: millegan

You are missing some very important facts. The colors meant something to the Aztecs of that era. The constellations are accurate. They worshipped the sun and our Lady of Guadalupe is in FRONT of the sun.

Let alone the eyes on the tilma and what they reveal. You can do your research on the following links.


4 posted on 12/17/2014 11:48:10 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: millegan
Focus on God's Word and Christ and His Saving Works.
Everything else is a distraction - and quite probably foisted by the father of lies to get our eyes off of the mark (The Way, the Truth, and the Life).
5 posted on 12/17/2014 11:48:53 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: millegan; nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; ...
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6 posted on 12/17/2014 11:49:20 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I love Our Lady of Guadalupe. She really kicked Huitzilopochtli's hind end.


7 posted on 12/17/2014 11:53:51 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (O Mary, He whom the whole Universe cannot contain, enclosed Himself in your womb and was made man.)
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To: El Cid; millegan
"Focus on God's Word and Christ and His Saving Works."

Amen. You've got absolutely the right idea there, El Cid.

Bearing in mind that Mary said "Be it done unto me according to Thy Word... and the Word was made flesh. Keeping in mind that she --- because of her role in the Incarnation --- is one of His saving works.

8 posted on 12/17/2014 11:56:24 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (O Mary, He whom the whole Universe cannot contain, enclosed Himself in your womb and was made man.)
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To: millegan

Perfectly suitable as a gang symbol....

9 posted on 12/17/2014 12:03:44 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

I don’t think tattoos are suitable for anything.


10 posted on 12/17/2014 12:06:26 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: defconw
Well here we go again. :) Thanks for the thread.

Why, what ever do you mean, defconw? Surely you intend to imply that every FReeper who reads and responds to this thread will do so in a loving, accepting, understanding, caring, thoughtful, meaningful, and all-around charitable way.

Surely. It's about Mary after all, nothing controversial or anything like that.

And it also won't get over 50 posts. Maybe 100. At most.

Yes, surely this is what you mean.

11 posted on 12/17/2014 12:11:21 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

“I don’t think tattoos are suitable for anything.”

Agreed.

I also don’t think the Guadalupe deal is Biblical. It’s false religion.


12 posted on 12/17/2014 12:19:11 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
This time of year I like to reflect on The Magnificat. Such beautiful words, if we could all just emulate that and live in God's peace.
13 posted on 12/17/2014 12:20:16 PM PST by tioga
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To: tioga

Yes..

My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord,
my spirit rejoices in God my Savior
for he has looked with favor on his lowly servant.
From this day all generations will call me blessed:
the Almighty has done great things for me,
and holy is his Name.

He has mercy on those who fear him
in every generation.
He has shown the strength of his arm,
he has scattered the proud in their conceit.

He has cast down the mighty from their thrones,
and has lifted up the lowly.
He has filled the hungry with good things,
and the rich he has sent away empty.

He has come to the help of his servant Israel
for he remembered his promise of mercy,
the promise he made to our fathers,
to Abraham and his children forever.

(Lk 1:46-55)


14 posted on 12/17/2014 12:29:06 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: fishtank

Well, of course Guadalupe has nothing to do with anything which can be found in the Bible.

The event occurred in the 1500s, long after the Bible was written.

If you believe in the miracles that have been recorded in the Bible, is not possible that some miracles may have occurred since the Bible was written?


15 posted on 12/17/2014 12:37:41 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I won't show you mine then.

No, I actually don't have a tattoo, but they can look cool -- on other people that is.

16 posted on 12/17/2014 12:38:33 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: millegan

When I was in Catholic school in the early 60’s we were told that there was a reflection in Mary’s eyes of Juan Diego and it was upside down, just as it would be in human eyes.

Interesting. I wonder how the earlier investigators missed 12 other people.

This isn’t a criticism, I have always loved her and the image is a great mystery.

I have also stood before a full-size computer recreation of the Shroud in Rome. It is in a church that also contains, a nail from the True Cross, thorns from the Crown, a piece of the True Cross and a piece from the cross of the Good Thief. In this church is also are finger bones said to be from the finger that St. Thomas put into Jesus’ wounds.

The Shroud is staggering to behold up close and in person, even as a reproduction.

I have also seen Our Lady of Guadalupe in person, in the late 60’s. Very impressive. I hope to visit her again.


17 posted on 12/17/2014 12:53:57 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: tioga

Amen to that. Amen x 10.


18 posted on 12/17/2014 1:10:37 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (O Mary, He whom the whole Universe cannot contain, enclosed Himself in your womb and was made man.)
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To: fishtank
Perfectly suitable as a gang symbol....

Or a wrestling symbol: Griddle bears image of Mary


FROM LEFT: Lucha Libre wrestlers Renegado and Mr. Tempest look at an image of the Virgin Mary
said to have appeared on a griddle at Las Palmas restaurant in Calexico. “I follow Our Lady of Guadalupe,"
Mr. Tempest said after the viewing. “This is amazing. It’s a true miracle.”

19 posted on 12/17/2014 1:34:57 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: SaxxonWoods

**When I was in Catholic school in the early 60’s we were told that there was a reflection in Mary’s eyes of Juan Diego and it was upside down, just as it would be in human eyes.**

Your instructors were mistaken. The upside down reflection in the eyes of the Blessed Virgin Mary of Guadalupe are the Bishop and his entourage as they watched the roses fall out her Juan Diego’s tilma and saw the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe appear on it.

How could the eyes be a reflection of Juan Diego when he was presenting the roses and the miracle to the Bishop?


20 posted on 12/17/2014 1:35:46 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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