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To: Springfield Reformer; Heart-Rest; terycarl; CynicalBear
As for the doxology in particular, why would it be so hard to imagine Jesus did actually say it? It would have been the normal way to end such a prayer.

Good point. Adding to it, there is a logic that connects "lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil" WITH the doxology. In other words, we WANT to be delivered from the loser evil kingdom BECAUSE the winner kingdom will be GOD'S kingdom that is without end.

Don't lead us into temptation but deliver from evil for Yours in the Kingdom, and the power, and the glory forever.

So, the so-called 'doxology' is actually a rational completion of a thought.

2,775 posted on 12/22/2014 7:26:25 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
Good point. Adding to it, there is a logic that connects "lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil" WITH the doxology. In other words, we WANT to be delivered from the loser evil kingdom BECAUSE the winner kingdom will be GOD'S kingdom that is without end.

Don't lead us into temptation but deliver from evil for Yours in the Kingdom, and the power, and the glory forever.

So, the so-called 'doxology' is actually a rational completion of a thought.


Excellent observation. What else can such a prayer be leading to anyway, but the glory of the sovereign God?  As was true in all things that Jesus did, and which should be our preoccupation as well.

Thanks,

SR
2,777 posted on 12/22/2014 7:43:31 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: xzins; terycarl; Heart-Rest; Springfield Reformer
As for the doxology in particular, why would it be so hard to imagine Jesus did actually say it? It would have been the normal way to end such a prayer. Good point. Adding to it, there is a logic that connects "lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil" WITH the doxology. In other words, we WANT to be delivered from the loser evil kingdom BECAUSE the winner kingdom will be GOD'S kingdom that is without end. Don't lead us into temptation but deliver from evil for Yours in the Kingdom, and the power, and the glory forever. So, the so-called 'doxology' is actually a rational completion of a thought.

Especially as it was already in the scriptures and chanted by the Jews LORD'S PRAYER, THE:

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The doxology added in Matthew, following a number of manuscripts, is a portion of I Chron. xxix. 11, and was the liturgical chant with which the Lord's Prayer was concluded in the Church; it occurs in the Jewish ritual also, the whole verse being chanted at the opening of the Ark of the Law.

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2,784 posted on 12/22/2014 8:21:14 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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