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To: ADSUM; annalex; Grateful2God; af_vet_1981; terycarl; vladimir998; metmom

By the way, at this moment, Lord Jesus Christ has ascended into Heaven, seated at the right hand of the Father, and is NOT still on that crucifix thingy as a perpetual victim as celebrated in RCC Mass.

The once-for-all sacrifice in place of all sinners who believe in Him, HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. Not only that, He DIED, and later was RESURRECTED. And because of that, we believers are resurrected with him in His time and in the proper order.

No priest, no Mary, no one on earth to call “Father”, no Mass, no Eucharist necessary for someone this very minute to call on Jesus with a repentant heart, to be saved from our sin and the second death. He has promised always to be with us...even to the very end of this age.


1,452 posted on 12/17/2014 11:09:08 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

“By the way, at this moment, Lord Jesus Christ has ascended into Heaven, seated at the right hand of the Father, and is NOT still on that crucifix thingy as a perpetual victim as celebrated in RCC Mass.”

And yet His sacrifice was forever in its importance and effectiveness so we honor it in memory and art.

“The once-for-all sacrifice in place of all sinners who believe in Him, HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. Not only that, He DIED, and later was RESURRECTED. And because of that, we believers are resurrected with him in His time and in the proper order.”

And our participation in His resurrection begins through Baptism (Romans 6:1-4).

“No priest, no Mary, no one on earth to call “Father”, no Mass, no Eucharist necessary for someone this very minute to call on Jesus with a repentant heart, to be saved from our sin and the second death.”

Except Christ, the High Priest, gave us priests (the Apostles) just as He gave us His mother (John 19). He gave us His flesh to eat (John 6, Luke 22) and the Mass (1 Cor 11). I see no reason to reject gifts from God.

“He has promised always to be with us...even to the very end of this age.”

Yep, through His Church, His Word (especially in the Church), His Body and Blood, and through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.


1,453 posted on 12/17/2014 11:32:43 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Resettozero
NOT still on that crucifix thingy

Without the Cross, there could be no Resurrection. To underestimate the pain and suffering He endured for our salvation is to do Him a disservice.

In Job's time, suffering was considered an affliction, a punishment from God. The Passion and Death of Jesus gave meaning and dignity to suffering. It was the price of our salvation.

By the way,a crucifix is a cross with a represenation of the Suffering Jesus attached, as a reminder of the Love that God has for us in giving us His Only-Begotten Son, allowing Him to willingly suffer and die for our sins: and, yes, Resurrect Himself from the dead!

"Thingy?" Take a look and see what your Savior went through for love of all mankind!

1,456 posted on 12/17/2014 11:47:10 AM PST by Grateful2God (preastat fides supplementum sensuum defectui)
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To: Resettozero

Awesome truth!


1,527 posted on 12/17/2014 4:42:06 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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