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Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?
self | 12-14-14 | ealgeone

Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone

The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; blessedvirginmary; catholic; mary; mystery; mysterybabylon; prayer; rcinventions; vanities; vanity; worship
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To: vladimir998
That third brain cell apparently died when it came up against “Ossibly”.

Do you have a bone to pick?

2,621 posted on 12/21/2014 3:55:19 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998; Religion Moderator
I sent you a private reply on October 28. You never responded.

Now THERE is a pay-per-view I'd waste money on!

Star Trek's Q vesus Joel Chandler's TarBaby!!!

2,622 posted on 12/21/2014 3:58:27 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
 
 
Luke 2:22-24
 
When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord  (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord”),  and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: “a pair of doves or two young pigeons.”
 

Leviticus 12:7-8
 
Then he shall offer it before the LORD and make atonement for her, and she shall be cleansed from the flow of her blood. This is the law for her who bears a child, whether a male or a female.
'But if she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall take two turtledoves or two young pigeons, the one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she will be clean.'"

2,623 posted on 12/21/2014 4:00:22 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Grateful2God
John took Mary into his home.

The End.

2,624 posted on 12/21/2014 4:01:00 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
Again, I don’t really care what you post.
2,625 posted on 12/21/2014 4:02:34 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998

Again, I don’t really care what you post.


2,626 posted on 12/21/2014 4:02:45 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998

Again...


2,627 posted on 12/21/2014 4:02:59 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero; teppe; Normandy
I’ve even forgotten the first 300 years of history of the RCC, the OTC.

Until Joseph Smith was revealed the earlier writings...

2,628 posted on 12/21/2014 4:04:32 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
It always amazes me how often Protestants come to completely erroneous conclusions like that.


2,629 posted on 12/21/2014 4:06:26 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero
we received all this Good News from loud-talking guys on podiums and they learned it from others before them and from reading the Holy Bible.

Which the Catholics are to be praised for compiling for us.

Why do they now bemoan the fact they failed to keep the COPYRIGHT current?

2,630 posted on 12/21/2014 4:08:44 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
therefore would have read my brilliant comments....

Oh; but we have!

(When we can find them interspersed among the lesser ones.)

2,631 posted on 12/21/2014 4:10:32 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: xzins; CynicalBear; Resettozero; metmom; redleghunter
As I have been repeatedly saying, Daniel, the word 'veneration' does not appear in our English bible anyplace at all. ...; We venerate that 'greatest generation' of World War II veterans. Our veneration reaches all the way to paying for those 'Honor Flights' that bring them to DC to see the WWII memorial.

That is your problem: you are not looking to the Bible to define the difference btwn mere obeisance to man versus worship. In relatively rare cases bowing down to men of God is sanctioned in showing reverence or humiliation, (Gn. 42:6; 43:26;28; 48:12; Rv. 3:9) but never btwn NT brethren, which Peter refused, (Acts 10:25.26) for Christ said, "all ye are brethren," "And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. (Matthew 23:8,12)

But what is never sanctioned is

kneeling before a statue
and praising the entity it represented in the unseen world,
and as having Divine powers and glory,
and or making offerings and beseeching such for Heavenly help,
directly accessed by mental prayer.

Is this how people venerate WW2 vets?

Out the over 200 prayers in Scripture , can you show us even one where a believer addresses anyone else in Heaven but the Lord?

Or anywhere in which anyone else but the Lord has the power to hear virtually infinite amounts of prayer, even mental prayer, addressed to them?

Let alone the demigoddess status ascribed to The MARY of CATHOLICISM

2,632 posted on 12/21/2014 4:11:53 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: terycarl
I do things on a "need to know" basis..

I was this way when I bought my first motorcycle.

After my first crash I realized I no longer needed to know why them SISSIES wore them helmets.

2,633 posted on 12/21/2014 4:12:19 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
terycarl, there you go being rational and all! :)

I guess that I will have to take your word for it...


Poof!


2,634 posted on 12/21/2014 4:13:36 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Twink
Heh nice. Finally!

Poof!2


2,635 posted on 12/21/2014 4:14:25 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Syncro

Rudolph was reindeer #9.

Do you know the name of the TENTH reindeer??


2,636 posted on 12/21/2014 4:15:28 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Twink
And you all can say it’s not but it is so you may want to take a look at that. IMO

With a screenname like TWINK; I'd imagine that you get folks wondering why...

2,637 posted on 12/21/2014 4:16:46 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Twink
So yeah you can bite me.

Fantasy time?

2,638 posted on 12/21/2014 4:17:32 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
Why don’t you just post that for a change, maybe?

 
2 Peter 3:16
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

2,639 posted on 12/21/2014 4:18:57 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Twink
I’m leaving the thread after this post but I wanted to say something. Take it for whatever, I really don’t care.

I see that YOU are not to be taken at your word.


To: Religion Moderator

Well the poster is stupid so it’s honest. Hmmm but his/her comments were ok? Yeah ok.

2,586 posted on ‎12‎/‎21‎/‎2014‎ ‎12‎:‎29‎:‎25‎ ‎AM by Twink

To: Religion Moderator

The religion forum is personal and pretending it’s not is stupid. imo.

2,587 posted on ‎12‎/‎21‎/‎2014‎ ‎12‎:‎30‎:‎09‎ ‎AM by Twink

To: Syncro

Great. My fellow Christians don’t think I’m Christian. Yay, the enemy is winning.

2,588 posted on ‎12‎/‎21‎/‎2014‎ ‎12‎:‎31‎:‎58‎ ‎AM by Twink


2,640 posted on 12/21/2014 4:23:16 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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