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Yes, Christ Was Really Born on December 25: a Defense of the Trad Date for Christmas
taylormarshall.com ^ | December 11, 2014 | Dr. Taylor Marshall

Posted on 12/11/2014 2:01:01 PM PST by NYer

The Catholic Church, from at least the second century, has claimed that Christ was born on December 25. However, it is commonly alleged that our Lord Jesus Christ was not born on December 25. For the sake of simplicity, let us set out the usual objections to the date of December 25 and counter each of them.

Objection 1: December 25 was chosen in order to replace the pagan Roman festival of Saturnalia. Saturnalia was a popular winter festival and so the Catholic Church prudently substituted Christmas in its place.
Reply to Objection 1: Saturnalia commemorated the winter solstice. Yet the winter solstice falls on December 22. It is true that Saturnalia celebrations began as early as December 17 and extended till December 23. Still, the dates don’t match up.

Objection 2: December 25 was chosen to replace the pagan Roman holiday Natalis Solis Invicti which means “Birthday of the Unconquered Sun.”

Reply to Objection 2: Let us examine first the cult of the Unconquered Sun. The Emperor Aurelian introduced the cult of the Sol Invictus or Unconquered Sunto Rome in A.D. 274. Aurelian found political traction with this cult, because his own name Aurelianderives from the Latin word aurora denoting “sunrise.” Coins reveal that Emperor Aurelian called himself the Pontifex Solis or Pontiff of the Sun. Thus, Aurelian simply accommodated a generic solar cult and identified his name with it at the end of the third century.

Most importantly, there is no historical record for a celebration Natalis Sol Invictus on December 25 prior to A.D. 354. Within an illuminated manuscript for the year A.D. 354, there is an entry for December 25 reading “N INVICTI CM XXX.”  Here N means “nativity.” INVICTI means “of the Unconquered.” CM signifies “circenses missus” or “games ordered.” The Roman numeral XXX equals thirty. Thus, the inscription means that thirty games were order for the nativity of the Unconquered for December 25th. Note that the word “sun” is not present. Moreover, the very same codex also lists “natus Christus in Betleem Iudeae” for the day of December 25. The phrase is translated as “birth of Christ in Bethlehem of Judea.”[i]

The date of December 25th only became the “Birthday of the Unconquered Sun” under the Emperor Julian the Apostate. Julian the Apostate had been a Christian but who had apostatized and returned to Roman paganism. History reveals that it was the hateful former Christian Emperor that erected a pagan holiday on December 25. Think about that for a moment. What was he trying to replace?

These historical facts reveal that the Unconquered Sun was not likely a popular deity in the Roman Empire. The Roman people did not need to be weaned off of a so-called ancient holiday. Moreover, the tradition of a December 25th celebration does not find a place on the Roman calendar until after the Christianization of Rome. The “Birthday of the Unconquered Sun” holiday was scarcely traditional and hardly popular. Saturnalia (mentioned above) was much more popular, traditional, and fun. It seems, rather, that Julian the Apostate had attempted to introduce a pagan holiday in order to replace the Christian one!

Objection 3: Christ could not have been born in December since Saint Luke describes shepherds herding in the neighboring fields of Bethlehem. Shepherds do not herd during the winter. Thus, Christ was not born in winter.

Reply to Objection 3: Recall that Palestine is not England, Russia, or Alaska. Bethlehem is situated at the latitude of 31.7. My city of Dallas, Texas has the latitude of 32.8, and it’s still rather comfortable outside in December. As the great Cornelius a Lapide remarks during his lifetime, one could still see shepherds and sheep in the fields of Italy during late December, and Italy is at higher latitude than Bethlehem.

Now we move on to establishing the birthday of Christ from Sacred Scripture in two steps. The first step is to use Scripture to determine the birthday of Saint John the Baptist. The next step is using Saint John the Baptist’s birthday as the key for finding Christ’s birthday. We can discover that Christ was born in late December by observing first the time of year in which Saint Luke describes Saint Zacharias in the temple. This provides us with the approximate conception date of Saint John the Baptist. From there we can follow the chronology that Saint Luke gives, and that lands us at the end of December.

Saint Luke reports that Zacharias served in the “course of Abias” (Lk 1:5) which Scripture records as the eighth course among the twenty-four priestly courses (Neh 12:17). Each shift of priests served one week in the temple for two times each year. The course of Abias served during the eighth week and the thirty-second week in the annual cycle.[ii]However, when did the cycle of courses begin?

Josef Heinrich Friedlieb has convincingly established that the first priestly course of Jojarib was on duty during the destruction of Jerusalem on the ninth day of the Jewish month of Av.[iii]Thus the priestly course of Jojarib was on duty during the second week of Av. Consequently, the priestly course of Abias (the course of Saint Zacharias) was undoubtedly serving during the second week of the Jewish month of Tishri—the very week of the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of Tishri. In our calendar, the Day of Atonement would land anywhere from September 22 to October 8.

Zacharias and Elizabeth conceived John the Baptist immediately after Zacharias served his course. This entails that Saint John the Baptist would have been conceived somewhere around the end of September, placing John’s birth at the end of June, confirming the Catholic Church’s celebration of the Nativity of Saint John the Baptist on June 24.

The second-century Protoevangelium of Saint James also confirms a late September conception of the Baptist since the work depicts Saint Zacharias as High Priest and as entering the Holy of Holies—not merely the holy place with the altar of incense. This is a factual mistake because Zacharias was not the high priest, but one of the chief priests.[iv]Still, the Protoevangelium regards Zacharias as a high priest and this associates him with the Day of Atonement, which lands on the tenth day of the Hebrew month of Tishri (roughly the end of our September). Immediately after this entry into the temple and message of the Archangel Gabriel, Zacharias and Elizabeth conceive John the Baptist. Allowing for forty weeks of gestation, this places the birth of John the Baptist at the end of June—once again confirming the Catholic date for the Nativity of Saint John the Baptist on June 24.

The rest of the dating is rather simple. We read that just after the Immaculate Virgin Mary conceived Christ, she went to visit her cousin Elizabeth who was six months pregnant with John the Baptist. This means that John the Baptist was six months older that our Lord Jesus Christ (Lk 1:24-27, 36). If you add six months to June 24 you get December 24-25 as the birthday of Christ. Then, if you subtract nine months from December 25 you get that the Annunciation was March 25. All the dates match up perfectly. So then, if John the Baptist was conceived shortly after the Jewish Day of the Atonement, then the traditional Catholic dates are essentially correct. The birth of Christ would be about or on December 25.

Sacred Tradition also confirms December 25 as the birthday of the Son of God. The source of this ancient tradition is the Blessed Virgin Mary herself. Ask any mother about the birth of her children. She will not only give you the date of the birth, but she will be able to rattle off the time, the location, the weather, the weight of the baby, the length of the baby, and a number of other details. I’m the father of six blessed children, and while I sometimes forget these details—mea maxima culpa—my wife never does. You see, mothers never forget the details surrounding the births of their babies.

Now ask yourself: Would the Blessed Virgin Mary ever forget the birth of her Son Jesus Christ who was conceived without human seed, proclaimed by angels, born in a miraculous way, and visited by Magi? She knew from the moment of His incarnation in her stainless womb that He was the Son of God and Messiah. Would she ever forget that day?[v]

Next, ask yourself: Would the Apostles be interested in hearing Mary tell the story? Of course they would. Do you think the holy Apostle who wrote, “And the Word was made flesh,” was not interested in the minute details of His birth? Even when I walk around with our seven-month-old son, people always ask “How old is he?” or “When was he born?” Don’t you think people asked this question of Mary?

So the exact birth date (December 25) and the time (midnight) would have been known in the first century. Moreover, the Apostles would have asked about it and would have, no doubt, commemorated the blessed event that both Saint Matthew and Saint Luke chronicle for us. In summary, it is completely reasonable to state that the early Christians both knew and commemorated the birth of Christ. Their source would have been His Immaculate Mother.

Further testimony reveals that the Church Fathers claimed December 25 as the Birthday of Christ prior to the conversion of Constantine and the Roman Empire. The earliest record of this is that Pope Saint Telesphorus (reigned A.D. 126-137) instituted the tradition of Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve. Although the Liber Pontificalis does not give us the date of Christmas, it assumes that the Pope was already celebrating Christmas and that a Mass at midnight was added. During this time, we also read the following words of Theophilus (A.D. 115-181), Catholic bishop of Caesarea in Palestine: “We ought to celebrate the birthday of Our Lord on what day soever the 25th of December shall happen.”[vi]

Shortly thereafter in the second century, Saint Hippolytus (A.D. 170-240) wrote in passing that the birth of Christ occurred on December 25:

The First Advent of our Lord in the flesh occurred when He was born in Bethlehem, was December 25th, a Wednesday, while Augustus was in his forty-second year, which is five thousand and five hundred years from Adam. He suffered in the thirty-third year, March 25th, Friday, the eighteenth year of Tiberius Caesar, while Rufus and Roubellion were Consuls.[vii]

Also note in the quote above the special significance of March 25, which marks the death of Christ (March 25 was assumed to corresponded to the Hebrew month Nisan 14 – the traditional date of crucifixion).[viii] Christ, as the perfect man, was believed to have been conceived and died on the same day—March 25. In his Chronicon, Saint Hippolytus states that the earth was created on March 25, 5500 B.C.  Thus, March 25 was identified by the Church Fathers as the Creation date of the universe, as the date of the Annunciation and Incarnation of Christ, and also as the date of the Death of Christ our Savior.

In the Syrian Church, March 25 or the Feast of the Annunciation was seen as one of the most important feasts of the entire year. It denoted the day that God took up his abode in the womb of the Virgin. In fact, if the Annunciation and Good Friday came into conflict on the calendar, the Annunciation trumped it, so important was the day in Syrian tradition. It goes without saying that the Syrian Church preserved some of the most ancient Christian traditions and had a sweet and profound devotion for Mary and the Incarnation of Christ.

Now then, March 25 was enshrined in the early Christian tradition, and from this date it is easy to discern the date of Christ’s birth. March 25 (Christ conceived by the Holy Ghost) plus nine months brings us to December 25 (the birth of Christ at Bethlehem).

Saint Augustine confirms this tradition of March 25 as the Messianic conception and December 25 as His birth:

For Christ is believed to have been conceived on the 25th of March, upon which day also he suffered; so the womb of the Virgin, in which he was conceived, where no one of mortals was begotten, corresponds to the new grave in which he was buried, wherein was never man laid, neither before him nor since. But he was born, according to tradition, upon December the 25th.[ix]

In about A.D. 400, Saint Augustine also noted how the schismatic Donatists celebrated December 25 as the birth of Christ, but that the schismatics refused to celebrate Epiphany on January 6, since they regarded Epiphany as a new feast without a basis in Apostolic Tradition. The Donatist schism originated in A.D. 311 which may indicate that the Latin Church was celebrating a December 25 Christmas (but not a January 6 Epiphany) before A.D. 311. Whichever is the case, the liturgical celebration of Christ’s birth was commemorated in Rome on December 25 long before Christianity became legalized and long before our earliest record of a pagan feast for the birthday of the Unconquered Sun. For these reasons, it is reasonable and right to hold that Christ was born on December 25 in 1 B.C. and that he died and rose again in March of A.D. 33.

Taylor’s new book The Eternal City also makes an argument in defense of the traditional BC/AD dating as being 100% accurate.




[i] The Chronography of AD 354. Part 12: Commemorations of the Martyrs.  MGH Chronica Minora I (1892), pp. 71-2.
[ii] I realize that there are two courses of Abias. This theory only works if Zacharias and Elizabeth conceived John the Baptist after Zacharias’ second course – the course in September. If Saint Luke refers to the first course, this then would place the birth of John the Baptist in late Fall and the birth of Christ in late Spring. However, I think tradition and the Protoevangelium substantiate that the Baptist was conceived in late September.
[iii] Josef Heinrich Friedlieb’s Leben J. Christi des Erlösers. Münster, 1887, p. 312.
[iv] The Greek tradition especially celebrates Saint Zacharias as “high priest.” Nevertheless, Acts 5:24 reveals that there were several “chief priests” (ρχιερες), and thus the claim that Zacharias was a “high priest” may not indicate a contradiction. The Greek tradition identifies Zacharias as an archpriest and martyr based on the narrative of the Protoevangelium of James and Matthew 23:35: “That upon you may come all the just blood that hath been shed upon the earth, from the blood of Abel the just, even unto the blood of Zacharias the son of Barachias, whom you killed between the temple and the altar.” (Matthew 23:35)
[v] A special thanks to the Reverend Father Phil Wolfe, FSSP for bringing the “memory of Mary” argument to my attention.


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To: The_Reader_David

I think a more friendly term would have been to use the “Apostolic Church”. Both Greek AND Latin. :)


101 posted on 12/11/2014 5:30:53 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: NYer; editor-surveyor; Shadow44
The catholic church worships creatures, -E-S

That is an officious statement that cannot be supported. It is offensive and I respectfully request an apology to ALL Catholics in the forum. -NY troll*

Hahahahahaaaaa!

*In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4]

102 posted on 12/11/2014 5:31:43 PM PST by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: kiryandil

“Taoists don’t have to worry about such frivolities.”

True. And that’s why Taoism was never a lead in to any great universal scientific or philosophic achievement.


103 posted on 12/11/2014 5:36:07 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: JohnKinAK

Who said anything about Roman? The adjective “catholic” (meaning “according to the whole”, corresponding better to the Russian notion of sobornosty than to the meaning of universal it took on in the West) was applied to the Church by St. Ignatius of Antioch, the third bishop of Antioch “where the disciples were first called Christians”, who according to Holy Tradition was the child who was placed in the lap of Our Lord when He said, “Suffer the little children come unto Me,” third in succession from the Apostle Peter, in his Epistle to the Smyrnaeans, writting c. 110.

And, no, the “Roman Catholic” church didn’t start in 325, it started in the 11th and 12th centuries when the Popes of Rome finally accepted the heretical filoque and led their patriarchate into schism from the One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church (now usually called “the Orthodox Church” because of the Latins’ loud propagandistic claims of the name “Catholic” for their own communion). When they tell the story, falsely claiming that the Patriarchates that retained the original Creed and remained in communion with each other were the schismatics, they date it to 1054. As an Antiochian Orthodox Christian, I’d date it to the First Crusade when the Latins forcibly installed a Latin Patriarch of Antioch in the already occupied see, despite only Constantinople having formally broken communion with Rome a that point. Were I Greek or Russian Orthodox (in the 11th century, Russia was still under Constantinople, I suppose I’d date it to 1009 or 1014 when Rome was removed from the Diptychs of Constantinople..


104 posted on 12/11/2014 5:50:15 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: JohnKinAK
Roman Catholic church didn’t exist until 325 AD with the Council of Nicea.

Documentation please.

105 posted on 12/11/2014 5:53:27 PM PST by verga (You anger Catholics by telling them a lie, you anger protestants by telling them the truth.)
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To: kiryandil
<>I>So I got that going for me...

But did you sleep at a Holiday Inn Express?

106 posted on 12/11/2014 5:57:52 PM PST by verga (You anger Catholics by telling them a lie, you anger protestants by telling them the truth.)
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To: editor-surveyor

All I said was “What difference does it make what date we celebrate His birth”? Next thing I start getting is paragraph after paragraph about all this stuff ....I did not bring up anything about my salvation - someone else did and I responded to that.... this whole thing is utter nonsense. Nothing better to do this evening???? Good Evening and have a Nice Day tomorrow ...


107 posted on 12/11/2014 6:02:05 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: SkyDancer; editor-surveyor
Does it really matter when Yeshua was born? Why does having to celebrate His birth on a particular date effect my salvation with Him? I celebrate His birth, death and resurrection everyday.

Yes, it really, really does - Without an understanding of the moedim, the Holy Days, and their purpose, one cannot understand fully... Stuck on milk... Try the meat. YHWH's Holy Days, those which HE ordained and called 'MY FEASTS', have tremendous purpose, and hold tremendous proof.

108 posted on 12/11/2014 6:05:27 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: JudyinCanada; SkyDancer
No. If we are supposed to have an official day to celebrate His birth, He would have let us know when that was.

He did.

109 posted on 12/11/2014 6:27:21 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: SkyDancer

One thing I wish to assure you, this is not nonsense. Worshiping a pagan Day is a direct offence to the Father.
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110 posted on 12/11/2014 6:51:32 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Lol, nobody is going to Hell for believing Christ was born on January 15th instead of December 25th. Whatever prehistoric meaning it ever had has slipped out of usage and has been co-opted by a Church.


111 posted on 12/11/2014 6:52:31 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Coming events caste their shadow beforehand.)
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To: The_Reader_David; JohnKinAK

David, why are you so fascinated with pagan myths, rather than the plain word of God?

No ‘Bishop’ is of any importance. Neither is any human corporation that is ruled by the inventions of men, which every one of the ‘churches’ in existence today are.

The last congregation that had any measurable contact with the true Way of Yeshua was that which was guided by Hippolytus. From then on, it was a steady down hill roll.

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112 posted on 12/11/2014 7:04:06 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: roamer_1
Using which calendar? Yeshua was Hebrew. Use the Hebrew one? Was it the Gregorian or Julian? December used to be the tenth month at one time - decem - meaning ten. The original Roman calendar had 10 months. It was changed to honor Julius and Augustus Caeser-hence July and August. It also made months 30 days apiece with adjustments using 31 days in some and 28 in February to accomadate leap year. The months September through December were kept in name if not in number.

Things got moved around a bit.

The extrabiblical evidence from the first and second century is equally spare: There is no mention of birth celebrations in the writings of early Christian writers such as Irenaeus (c. 130–200) or Tertullian (c. 160–225). Origen of Alexandria (c. 165–264) goes so far as to mock Roman celebrations of birth anniversaries, dismissing them as “pagan” practices—a strong indication that Jesus’ birth was not marked with similar festivities at that place and time.1 As far as we can tell, Christmas was not celebrated at all at this point.

Good reading here:http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/how-december-25-became-christmas/

113 posted on 12/11/2014 7:08:24 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: Usagi_yo

One needs to wake up to the fact that no one that worships pagan days like christmas and Easter is going to find the narrow gate to Yehova’s rest.

We are commanded to put away all appearance of evil, not argue about what day to embrace it. That is all that this thread is about, how to properly worship the sun god.
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114 posted on 12/11/2014 7:09:04 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
So. Nu? Who's worshiping a pagan day???

This is pagan.

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115 posted on 12/11/2014 7:10:34 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: SkyDancer; roamer_1

Yehova’s days fall only on the Biblical calendar, which revolves around the beginning of the agricultural year, the new moon immediately preceding the aviv barley in Jerusalem.

Passover is completely dependent on this event, and all other events flow from Passover.

The seventh, eighth, ninth, and tenth biblical months usually fall close to September, October, November, and December, but the relationship is never exact because God’s calendar is agricultural, while man’s follows sun god worship,the solstices and the equinoxes.

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116 posted on 12/11/2014 7:20:18 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I hear say people who worship the moon are more apt to be lunatics than those that worship the sun.

I think I’m mad because I know I’m mad, but I can’t be mad if I know I’m mad.

That might be a palindrome, I didn’t check.


117 posted on 12/11/2014 7:21:09 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Coming events caste their shadow beforehand.)
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To: SkyDancer

Your picture is true to the advertising industry.

Nevertheless, christmas and Easter are pagan in their basis, and a disobedient slap in the face of God. What does it say in Deuteronomy?

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118 posted on 12/11/2014 7:23:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Usagi_yo

I hope you’re enjoying yourself.


119 posted on 12/11/2014 7:26:59 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
I think more it their application ... Santa and bunnies never did it for me.

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120 posted on 12/11/2014 7:29:38 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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