“It is the most accurate info about the catholic church per their statement.”
What pope or Church council appointed you to a position to judge the accuracy of it?
“It is written by catholics......who have told the truth.”
Which you misrepresented. You falsely claimed: “I post facts from a catholic website that blows the “immaculate conception” out of the water,”
Nothing like that happened.
“Sorry it hurts. The truth usually does.”
Then you must be doubled over in pain. Maybe that’s why you keep running from the questions about “sleep” and sola scriptura.
“stay on task here.”
Said the person refusing to answer questions about sola scripture and “sleep” in the Bible in post after post.
“You keep trying to deflect which tells me you can’t defend this mess.”
Again, you keep missing the point. You made a false claim (”I post facts from a catholic website that blows the “immaculate conception” out of the water,”). You refuse to deal with the problems of sola scripture: it isn’t in the Bible; Elsie’s ideas probably differ entirely from yours and are still sola scriptura based in his/her view.
1) No direct or categorical and stringent proof of the dogma can be brought forward from Scripture.
2)The salutation of the angel Gabriel -- chaire kecharitomene , Hail, full of grace ( Luke 1:28 ) indicates a unique abundance of grace, a supernatural, godlike state of soul, which finds its explanation only in the Immaculate Conception of Mary. But the term kecharitomene (full of grace ) serves only as an illustration, not as a proof of the dogma.
3)From this summary it appears that the belief in Mary's immunity from sin in her conception was prevalent amongst the Fathers, especially those of the Greek Church. The rhetorical character, however, of many of these and similar passages prevents us from laying too much stress on them, and interpreting them in a strictly literal sense. The Greek Fathers never formally or explicitly discussed the question of the Immaculate Conception.
Me.
All the catholic is left with is the appeal to reason....man's reason. This is the most unreliable way to build theology for it is based on feelings.
In every way this is a FALSE teaching based on nothing of substance.
Like "Mary is alive in Heaven; handling Jesus' mail?"